05-31-2012, 04:47 PM | #61 | |
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Apparently incest and other such icky things are perfectly publishable if your name is Samuel Delany
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05-31-2012, 07:50 PM | #63 |
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Good for you.
I'm sure that ARE, Harlequin, etc are all laughing all the way to the bank. And the millions of us who absolutely love reading these books, think that it is in very good taste. So long as you and others like you don't try to tell us what we should be reading, or try to stop these stores & publishers from creating & selling these stories we don't care what you think. |
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06-01-2012, 02:16 AM | #65 | |
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No its not. Its a bunch of suits in a corporate boardroom deciding that they will ban a popular band because of its political position. Its an attempt at censorship, plain and simple. It might be legally within their rights, but its not right.
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Going back to the roots of this discussion, it all started with this statement. I disagree. Corporations are also capable of censorship. See above for example. |
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06-01-2012, 07:35 AM | #66 | |
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When they are a minority that seems to be persuading paying customers to their side, they have an effect. But very, very often they are actually a majority, and one percieves them to be a minority if one desires to minimize the legitimacy of their point. I am guilty of this myself upon occaision. |
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06-01-2012, 09:01 AM | #67 | |
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I'm sure the tobacco companies are all laughing all the way to the bank, and I'd bet the smokers like the taste as well. I'm pretty sure they don't care what others think either. But I have no desire to smoke. |
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06-01-2012, 09:18 AM | #68 | |
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While I understand your position, I have to say one of the things that I Love about the USA is that we as people (and ones who own companies) can (for the most part) chose what to sell or not. If I own a store I do not have to sell an item that I don't want to sell. So I could chose to sell a particular; I can also (for the most part) chose to not sell an item. I can also in a way "Censor" the purchases to customers at my discretion. I can choose to Not sell razor blades and apples to a person on Halloween. I can also choose to Not sell an Item that may offend a customer. (and yes a lot of people get offended by music) So if I have 2% of my customers that want an album but I know it will offend 60% others in just makes straight business sense to Not sell it. I like Heavy Metal but I'm sure many others do not appreciate it. Some is from ignorance, they see the band name and think they are "Evil" without realizing where the name came from. |
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06-01-2012, 10:21 AM | #69 |
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What if 60% want an item and 2% are offended by it? But the 2% make a giant racket, forming protest lines in front of the store, making frequent calls, harassing your customers, etc? That is what it usually comes down to.
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06-01-2012, 10:51 AM | #70 |
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It just needs a little extra effort to be put in between the first screen and the end user. I have kids and could care less if erotica is in the marketplace, I just don't want it on the front page of Amazon, lol.
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Should a site have to sell Mein Kampf? Or Michael Moore's books? Or books by Marx? What if they decide to carry no politically-oriented books of any persuasion? I'm a big proponent in freedom of expression for individuals, but when you dig into it, many of these decisions have to made on a case-by-case basis. |
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06-01-2012, 11:20 AM | #72 |
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I think we should have the right to read all those works and more (anything ever written IMO). That doesn't mean any particular store should be forced to sell them. But if it ever boils down to just one source then the rules change (no censorship). Right now I don't see too much danger of, say, Amazon becoming the one-and-only e-retailer for the world. But it could happen.
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06-01-2012, 12:29 PM | #73 | |
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Yep and it is on both sides of nearly issue. It is like this petition they are trying to force the seller to sell something they do not want to sell (for whatever reason) Someone is always against someone else, or trying to force their desires on others. I like Heavy Metal music and have been told how "bad" it is.... "Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say If they knew you believe in God above? They should realize before they criticize That God is the only way to love " - Black Sabbath Then I listen to the lyrics on country and think how "bad" they are songs "glorifying" infidelity with another's spouse etc. Someone always will have an opposing viewpoint no matter the subject. . Last edited by Harry_Y; 06-01-2012 at 03:39 PM. Reason: Tired people should not type |
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06-01-2012, 01:23 PM | #74 |
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Like erotica is in danger of vanishing? Sheesh.
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06-01-2012, 02:41 PM | #75 |
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So then the store makes a choice, and the customers make a choice. Where is the problem?
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