Android Kindle 4.1 breaks further page syncing? - Page 2

jswinden · 07-02-2013, 05:01 PM

Whispersyncing with Personal Documents from Kindle apps has periodically broken in the past. I suspect when Amazon does an update they might not always test Whispersync with Personal Documents. That is just a guess. Amazon does have a history of breaking things with updates, but they usually get them corrected with the next update.

perler · 07-02-2013, 05:25 PM

the same here on a nexus 4 and 7 - syncing is definitely broken in the latest version.. use this version: http://www.androiddrawer.com/7839/do.../#.UdNDUvkwdWw

GaidinBDJ · 07-03-2013, 07:00 AM

FYI: 4.0.2.1 sync works for me, if you don't want to go back to 3.8. Don't forget to turn auto-update off in the Play Store to keep your old version. If you use adb, you can force a downgrade with the "-d" flag, otherwise just uninstall first.

perler · 07-03-2013, 07:14 AM

ah, ok, this one was't available for download yesterday..

Waitingforatrain · 07-03-2013, 11:45 PM

I had a backup of 4.0.2.1 to go back to until amazon fixes the app. Thank goodness.

bwaldron · 07-07-2013, 01:35 PM

Yes, glad I had a copy of 4.0 around. I noticed that my non-Amazon purchases (with ASIN set via Calibre) were no longer syncing furthest page read among devices, and remembered that the Kindle app had updated recently.

Hopefully this breakage is inadvertent and not a conscious decision by Amazon.

perler · 07-18-2013, 06:32 AM

unfortunately, even the latest update doesn't restore the functionality. I think we must assume, that amazon is shredding sync for sideloaded documents..

Waitingforatrain · 07-18-2013, 09:07 PM

Sad but probably true. :-(

Josieb1 · 07-19-2013, 03:42 AM

I'm pretty much used to manually moving to the correct location when I switch devices on anyway, especially as I tend not to leave wifi on on my Kindle. Removing whisper sync functionality will not entice me to buy my books from Amazon. Apart from the DRM its the font size issue that i often see that annoys me, I bought a book this week from Amazon, the font could only be read on the second highest font size, which is too high tbh, yet my normal size was tiny.

I could have bought that book from Allromance, downloaded a mobi file which would have worked perfectly on my Kindle.

HarryT · 07-19-2013, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I bought a book this week from Amazon, the font could only be read on the second highest font size, which is too high tbh, yet my normal size was tiny.

That has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Amazon. It's the publisher who determines the font sizing, not Amazon.

If you do find a book with a default font size that's too big or too small, do a conversion in Calibre and set the base font size to whatever you deem appropriate (I generally use 12pt).

GaidinBDJ · 07-19-2013, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perler

unfortunately, even the latest update doesn't restore the functionality. I think we must assume, that amazon is shredding sync for sideloaded documents..

It has been broken and fixed before. I'm not sure what triggers it, but the fact that it's blocked at the client end (as opposed to Amazon just blocking it outright) seems to indicate to me that it's not a policy change.

perler · 07-27-2013, 10:24 AM

I see it the other way around, looks like they disabled it on the client to see if they get a reaction. if yes, they can always re-enable it.

the problem is now, that only the most recent version of the Kindle app works in android 4.3 - all older versions crash.. so, if you want to keep syncing, use the 4.0.2.1 Kindle app and jelly bean 4.2 for now..

Waitingforatrain · 07-27-2013, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perler

I see it the other way around, looks like they disabled it on the client to see if they get a reaction. if yes, they can always re-enable it.

the problem is now, that only the most recent version of the Kindle app works in android 4.3 - all older versions crash.. so, if you want to keep syncing, use the 4.0.2.1 Kindle app and jelly bean 4.2 for now..

I noticed that so went back to 4.2 for now

bwaldron · 07-27-2013, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaidinBDJ

It has been broken and fixed before. I'm not sure what triggers it, but the fact that it's blocked at the client end (as opposed to Amazon just blocking it outright) seems to indicate to me that it's not a policy change.

I don't believe it's a policy change either -- as you note, they could easily break things at the server end for non-Amazon ASINs, so even older clients wouldn't work.

That doesn't mean I expect it to be fixed. I don't think there are many true "sideloaders with generated ASINs" as a percentage of the Kindle user population, so whether things work for us or not isn't something they worry about.

Waitingforatrain · 07-28-2013, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwaldron

I don't believe it's a policy change either -- as you note, they could easily break things at the server end for non-Amazon ASINs, so even older clients wouldn't work.

That doesn't mean I expect it to be fixed. I don't think there are many true "sideloaders with generated ASINs" as a percentage of the Kindle user population, so whether things work for us or not isn't something they worry about.

I use amazon ASINs from their website and insert using mobi2mobi. Am not sure what you are referring to by generated ones. Latest version still breaks sync capability for me .

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07-02-2013, 05:01 PM	#16
jswinden Nameless Being	Whispersyncing with Personal Documents from Kindle apps has periodically broken in the past. I suspect when Amazon does an update they might not always test Whispersync with Personal Documents. That is just a guess. Amazon does have a history of breaking things with updates, but they usually get them corrected with the next update.

07-02-2013, 05:25 PM	#17
perler Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: perler	the same here on a nexus 4 and 7 - syncing is definitely broken in the latest version.. use this version: http://www.androiddrawer.com/7839/do.../#.UdNDUvkwdWw

07-03-2013, 07:00 AM	#18
GaidinBDJ Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 5132 Join Date: Jul 2013 Device: Kindle	FYI: 4.0.2.1 sync works for me, if you don't want to go back to 3.8. Don't forget to turn auto-update off in the Play Store to keep your old version. If you use adb, you can force a downgrade with the "-d" flag, otherwise just uninstall first.

07-03-2013, 07:14 AM	#19
perler Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: perler	ah, ok, this one was't available for download yesterday..

07-03-2013, 11:45 PM	#20
Waitingforatrain Groupie Posts: 153 Karma: 902096 Join Date: Jul 2013 Device: Kindle Oasis 3, Kindle Voyage	I had a backup of 4.0.2.1 to go back to until amazon fixes the app. Thank goodness.

07-07-2013, 01:35 PM	#21
bwaldron Wizard Posts: 1,229 Karma: 543210 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gatlinburg, Tennessee Device: Kindles: Paperwhite Signature Ed., Oasis 2, Voyage	Yes, glad I had a copy of 4.0 around. I noticed that my non-Amazon purchases (with ASIN set via Calibre) were no longer syncing furthest page read among devices, and remembered that the Kindle app had updated recently. Hopefully this breakage is inadvertent and not a conscious decision by Amazon.

07-18-2013, 06:32 AM	#22
perler Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: perler	unfortunately, even the latest update doesn't restore the functionality. I think we must assume, that amazon is shredding sync for sideloaded documents..

07-18-2013, 09:07 PM	#23
Waitingforatrain Groupie Posts: 153 Karma: 902096 Join Date: Jul 2013 Device: Kindle Oasis 3, Kindle Voyage	Sad but probably true. :-(

07-19-2013, 03:42 AM	#24
Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,013 Karma: 18018738 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kobo Forma, Libra2, Clara 2e, Kindle PW SE & Kindle 2022	I'm pretty much used to manually moving to the correct location when I switch devices on anyway, especially as I tend not to leave wifi on on my Kindle. Removing whisper sync functionality will not entice me to buy my books from Amazon. Apart from the DRM its the font size issue that i often see that annoys me, I bought a book this week from Amazon, the font could only be read on the second highest font size, which is too high tbh, yet my normal size was tiny. I could have bought that book from Allromance, downloaded a mobi file which would have worked perfectly on my Kindle.

07-27-2013, 10:24 AM	#27
perler Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: perler	I see it the other way around, looks like they disabled it on the client to see if they get a reaction. if yes, they can always re-enable it. the problem is now, that only the most recent version of the Kindle app works in android 4.3 - all older versions crash.. so, if you want to keep syncing, use the 4.0.2.1 Kindle app and jelly bean 4.2 for now..