I got charged for Whispernet! - Page 2

Leep · 06-09-2009, 01:11 PM

I sent a friend's Kindle a couple of books and she was charged $0.20 per book. This leaves me to believe that Amazon is in fact charging for all whispernet transactions that are not Amazon purchases.

cheers

desertgrandma · 06-09-2009, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leep

I sent a friend's Kindle a couple of books and she was charged $0.20 per book. This leaves me to believe that Amazon is in fact charging for all whispernet transactions that are not Amazon purchases.

cheers

Thanks leep......I think they are killing the goose here......

pshrynk · 06-09-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kali Yuga

"Charging for Whispernet" implies that you are getting billed for things like Internet access on the Kindle.

Otherwise, while not everyone knows about it, the charge to convert / send some documents to your Kindle via email is public knowledge.

They've always said they would charge, but never have. Now, they seem to be doing it at least in some instances.

daffy4u · 06-09-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kali Yuga

Otherwise, while not everyone knows about it, the charge to convert / send some documents to your Kindle via email is public knowledge.

Amazon has *never* charged to convert a document... not even now. That's why you can still use the @free.kindle.com route. The charge is for sending the document to the Kindle via Whispernet.

desertgrandma · 06-09-2009, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leep

I sent a friend's Kindle a couple of books and she was charged $0.20 per book. This leaves me to believe that Amazon is in fact charging for all whispernet transactions that are not Amazon purchases.

cheers

Quote:

Originally Posted by daffy4u

Amazon has *never* charged to convert a document... not even now. That's why you can still use the @free.kindle.com route. The charge is for sending the document to the Kindle via Whispernet.

So Daffy.......what do you think? You seem to be the most knowledgeable person in regards to Amazon here.....and sirbruce also.

Is Amazon starting to charge for any whispernet transactions that are not Amazon purchases?

daffy4u · 06-09-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

So Daffy.......what do you think? You seem to be the most knowledgeable person in regards to Amazon here.....and sirbruce also.

Is Amazon starting to charge for any whispernet transactions that are not Amazon purchases?

Yes, if you are sending "non_Amazon" content to your Kindle. I've been charged myself. So far I've seen nothing for just using the browser to surf the net.

desertgrandma · 06-09-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

Yes, if you are sending "non_Amazon" content to your Kindle. I've been charged myself. So far I've seen nothing for just using the browser to surf the net.

So.............downloading the catalog from here and feedbooks to our Kindles isn't really the freebie it used to be.........if we are out somewhere, and decide to send a book from here or feedbooks.......we'll be charged. A small fee, to be sure, but charged non the less.

I understand this has always been an "experimental" feature. They never promised it would be free forever.

I am not surprised, nor shocked. Anyone who understands how business work, could see this coming, we just didn't know when.

I guess the next thing will be charging 'small fees' for browsing with whispernet.

As long as I can "drag and drop" from my computer to my K.........I'm fine.

But I can hear the howls now...........

daffy4u · 06-09-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

So.............downloading the catalog from here and feedbooks to our Kindles isn't really the freebie it used to be.........if we are out somewhere, and decide to send a book from here or feedbooks.......we'll be charged. A small fee, to be sure, but charged non the less.

Correct. I don't have a problem with the charge but I do have a problem with multiple small hits to my credit card. I was charged 15 cents immediately instead of the old policy of accumulating $3 (which never happened) in charges before hitting the card.

I'll be sticking to USB unless I have a large number of documents and Whispernet is more convenient.

Even with the charge, getting your daily newspaper via Calibre or Feedbooks is still cheaper than a subscription as long as the papers are combined and sent once a day.

rhadin · 06-09-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

I'll be sticking to USB unless I have a large number of documents and Whispernet is more convenient.

Kind of kills one of the prime features of the Kindle doesn't it?

daffy4u · 06-09-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rhadin

Kind of kills one of the prime features of the Kindle doesn't it?

Nah, not really, because my main use of it is to wirelessly download my Kindle purchases to my device with some occasional web surfing. I usually transfer by USB because I like to make my own conversions most of the time.

My charge was from playing around with the email feature of Cailbre.

pshrynk · 06-09-2009, 04:40 PM

I still like the e-mail feature of Claibre, and will probably use it. The charge looks to be for size, so the $0.45 for the MobiPocket Guide wasn't too awful.

kevindorsey · 06-09-2009, 04:44 PM

Ah crap, now they charge for something like this too? Is there a Kilobyte limits?

RickyMaveety · 06-09-2009, 05:06 PM

Doesn't shock me. I never use the Whispernet unless it is to download a book I purchased at the Kindle store. All other materials go the USB route. So, because of the way I use my Kindle, this really doesn't have any impact on me, but it's still nice to know that there would be a charge if I did do any of that.

All out of the house browsing is now done on my netbook or my iPhone. I never considered the Kindle to be a good device for browsing or downloading from sites other than Amazon, so I think after trying it (just for giggles when I first got my Kindle), I decided it was a non-starter.

sirbruce · 06-09-2009, 07:44 PM

I think there is some confusion here.

I have not personally tested the downloading of a MOBI file via feedbooks, mobileread, etc. directly to the Kindle recently.

However, I am 99% certain that Leep was talking about EMAILING the books to her friend's Kindle. And I think daffy4u misunderstood your precise question, desertgrandma.

As far as I know, Amazon ONLY charges for EMAILING OF BOOKS WIRELESSLY VIA THE EMAIL ADDRESS. This is done whether or not the books are converted, and done based on the size of the initial file sent to Amazon, not the converted file sent to the Kindle. (Which is actually lame since the charge is supposed to be based on WhisperNet usage, but whatever.)

As far as I know, Amazon DOES NOT CHARGE for any other wireless transaction. This includes not only books bought from the Amazon store, but also web browsing, AND BOOKS DOWNLOADED VIA THE WEB. So no, I do NOT believe you get charged if you download a book *directly* via the Feedbooks or Mobileread catalogs. The charge only occurs when the email transaction is involved.

desertgrandma · 06-09-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sirbruce

I think there is some confusion here.

I have not personally tested the downloading of a MOBI file via feedbooks, mobileread, etc. directly to the Kindle recently.

However, I am 99% certain that Leep was talking about EMAILING the books to her friend's Kindle. And I think daffy4u misunderstood your precise question, desertgrandma.

As far as I know, Amazon ONLY charges for EMAILING OF BOOKS WIRELESSLY VIA THE EMAIL ADDRESS. This is done whether or not the books are converted, and done based on the size of the initial file sent to Amazon, not the converted file sent to the Kindle. (Which is actually lame since the charge is supposed to be based on WhisperNet usage, but whatever.)

As far as I know, Amazon DOES NOT CHARGE for any other wireless transaction. This includes not only books bought from the Amazon store, but also web browsing, AND BOOKS DOWNLOADED VIA THE WEB. So no, I do NOT believe you get charged if you download a book *directly* via the Feedbooks or Mobileread catalogs. The charge only occurs when the email transaction is involved.

all right.......how about downloading some from the feedbooks or mobileread catalog thats on your K, to your K via whispernet and let us know?

Any volunteers?

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06-09-2009, 01:11 PM	#16
Leep Guru Posts: 739 Karma: 1018859 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Near Seattle Device: kindle1, K3, K3G (thanks MR), iTouch, Kindle Touch	I sent a friend's Kindle a couple of books and she was charged $0.20 per book. This leaves me to believe that Amazon is in fact charging for all whispernet transactions that are not Amazon purchases. cheers

06-09-2009, 04:40 PM	#26
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	I still like the e-mail feature of Claibre, and will probably use it. The charge looks to be for size, so the $0.45 for the MobiPocket Guide wasn't too awful.

06-09-2009, 04:44 PM	#27
kevindorsey Evangelist Posts: 488 Karma: 258 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: kindle	Ah crap, now they charge for something like this too? Is there a Kilobyte limits?

06-09-2009, 05:06 PM	#28
RickyMaveety Holy S**T!!! Posts: 5,213 Karma: 108401 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Diego, California!! Device: Kindle and iPad	Doesn't shock me. I never use the Whispernet unless it is to download a book I purchased at the Kindle store. All other materials go the USB route. So, because of the way I use my Kindle, this really doesn't have any impact on me, but it's still nice to know that there would be a charge if I did do any of that. All out of the house browsing is now done on my netbook or my iPhone. I never considered the Kindle to be a good device for browsing or downloading from sites other than Amazon, so I think after trying it (just for giggles when I first got my Kindle), I decided it was a non-starter.

06-09-2009, 07:44 PM	#29
sirbruce Provocateur Posts: 1,859 Karma: 505847 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Device: Kindle Touch, Kindle 2, Kindle DX, iPhone 3GS	I think there is some confusion here. I have not personally tested the downloading of a MOBI file via feedbooks, mobileread, etc. directly to the Kindle recently. However, I am 99% certain that Leep was talking about EMAILING the books to her friend's Kindle. And I think daffy4u misunderstood your precise question, desertgrandma. As far as I know, Amazon ONLY charges for EMAILING OF BOOKS WIRELESSLY VIA THE EMAIL ADDRESS. This is done whether or not the books are converted, and done based on the size of the initial file sent to Amazon, not the converted file sent to the Kindle. (Which is actually lame since the charge is supposed to be based on WhisperNet usage, but whatever.) As far as I know, Amazon DOES NOT CHARGE for any other wireless transaction. This includes not only books bought from the Amazon store, but also web browsing, AND BOOKS DOWNLOADED VIA THE WEB. So no, I do NOT believe you get charged if you download a book directly via the Feedbooks or Mobileread catalogs. The charge only occurs when the email transaction is involved.

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