Firmware Update Amazon's Automatic Firmware Updates

Aiadi · 09-23-2010, 04:51 AM

Hi everyone and thanks to all for the wealth of information on these fora.

I am new to the whole kindle thing and apologies if this is mentioned before but I could not find it searching here. Is there a way to block or disable the automatic software updates for Kindle 3? The reason i am asking is that I would like to wait for reviews on the new firmware released prior to installing then in case they mess up a perfectly smooth running machine when these updates are automatically installed.

HarryT · 09-23-2010, 05:42 AM

Don't worry - that's why they have "previews" of the firmware releases first. They don't push them out over the air until they're sure that they are problem-free. There's no way to disable updates, that I know of, other than by keeping the 3G switched off.

JeremyR · 09-23-2010, 06:20 AM

Well, actually, that scenario is exactly what happened.

They pushed out 3.01 automatically and some people had problems with it (at least I did) and they had to put out a 3.02 to fix the problems (at least it did for me).

See:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=21

For the first report of the problem with 3.01 being fixed (and I'm in there somewhere later)

Aiadi · 09-23-2010, 08:29 AM

Thanks Harry and Jeremy. Yes I'd rather to be able to choose myself when to upgrade the firmware but also especially if I am to start fiddling with hacks and the likes....

flandroid · 09-23-2010, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aiadi

Thanks Harry and Jeremy. Yes I'd rather to be able to choose myself when to upgrade the firmware but also especially if I am to start fiddling with hacks and the likes....

If it eases your mind at all, automatic firmware updates will simply fail if any hack you've installed is interfering with it, and your device will continue to operate fine using the existing firmware. Most hacks are reversible so, should they cause an update to fail, and you really want that update, you can uninstall the hack -- and probably reinstall it post-update.

NiLuJe · 09-23-2010, 08:46 AM

Note that my K3 hacks *don't* make official updates fail, though

.

And I wouldn't recommend trying to block them that way, depending on how the update script is written, that could leave your Kindle in an half-updated state...

flandroid · 09-23-2010, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

Note that my K3 hacks *don't* make official updates fail, though

.

And I wouldn't recommend trying to block them that way, depending on how the update script is written, that could leave your Kindle in an half-updated state...

Of course yours don't.

And oof, really? It wouldn't run a checksum check (or whatever it uses to determine whether the files are kosher) before trying to do anything?

NiLuJe · 09-23-2010, 11:08 AM

They do run a checksum check before mergin the the rootfs, but I personally wouldn't rely on that being always the case

. Better safe than sorry

.

Tiersten · 09-23-2010, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flandroid

And oof, really? It wouldn't run a checksum check (or whatever it uses to determine whether the files are kosher) before trying to do anything?

You might have added files which wouldn't be checked. All of firmware files will be checked and the update will fail if they've been altered but they can't guarantee that you've not done something weird to your Kindle.

ManosHandsOfFate · 09-23-2010, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

Note that my K3 hacks *don't* make official updates fail, though

.

And I wouldn't recommend trying to block them that way, depending on how the update script is written, that could leave your Kindle in an half-updated state...

Thinking of installing your jailbreak for the screensaver hack and was wondering about this. Great to know! Thanks!

09-23-2010, 04:51 AM	#1
Aiadi Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kindle 3	Amazon's Automatic Firmware Updates Hi everyone and thanks to all for the wealth of information on these fora. I am new to the whole kindle thing and apologies if this is mentioned before but I could not find it searching here. Is there a way to block or disable the automatic software updates for Kindle 3? The reason i am asking is that I would like to wait for reviews on the new firmware released prior to installing then in case they mess up a perfectly smooth running machine when these updates are automatically installed.

09-23-2010, 08:46 AM	#6
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012494 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	Note that my K3 hacks don't make official updates fail, though . And I wouldn't recommend trying to block them that way, depending on how the update script is written, that could leave your Kindle in an half-updated state... Last edited by NiLuJe; 09-23-2010 at 08:53 AM.

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09-23-2010, 05:42 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Don't worry - that's why they have "previews" of the firmware releases first. They don't push them out over the air until they're sure that they are problem-free. There's no way to disable updates, that I know of, other than by keeping the 3G switched off.

09-23-2010, 06:20 AM	#3
JeremyR Guru Posts: 973 Karma: 2458402 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: St. Louis Device: Kindle Keyboard, Nook HD+	Well, actually, that scenario is exactly what happened. They pushed out 3.01 automatically and some people had problems with it (at least I did) and they had to put out a 3.02 to fix the problems (at least it did for me). See: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=21 For the first report of the problem with 3.01 being fixed (and I'm in there somewhere later)

09-23-2010, 08:29 AM	#4
Aiadi Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kindle 3	Thanks Harry and Jeremy. Yes I'd rather to be able to choose myself when to upgrade the firmware but also especially if I am to start fiddling with hacks and the likes....

09-23-2010, 11:08 AM	#8
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,477 Karma: 26012494 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	They do run a checksum check before mergin the the rootfs, but I personally wouldn't rely on that being always the case . Better safe than sorry .

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