Onyx Boox Max 2 - Feature Wishlist - Page 3

norweger · 03-08-2018, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ghostwheel

1. Make the pen software compatible with other android apps that work with pens. Onyx doesn't need to invent everything - just work with a developer of one good note-taking app, and make it compatible, or even better make them all compatible. For example Xodo!!!! (or squid, lecturenotes, onenote, evernote...)

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Originally Posted by mdp

That does not need Onyx. All it needs is the interest of the said developer.
(Or any developer, if the note-taking app is open source.)

If we're talking about note taking apps, so we can scribble while we read, it would also require Onyx enabling split screen mode with third party apps.

I would love to use an Onyx Boox for maths, having my textbook on the left side of the screen and my copybook on the right side of the screen, but as I've understood it the current Onyx notetaking app is locked so 1 textbook page only lets you have 1 page for notes.

sogaiu · 03-09-2018, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by norweger

If we're talking about note taking apps, so we can scribble while we read, it would also require Onyx enabling split screen mode with third party apps.

If we get root on the Max 2, perhaps the following will make that possible:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/and...droid-t3121483

blue_skies · 03-09-2018, 08:38 PM

I wish it had a front light. Is it true that there is no way an eInk screen that large will ever be able to have a front light? If so, what is the largest size that can support a front light? I would really love to buy the Max 2. It has everything I've wanted in an eReader/note-taking device.

The software features I would like are:
1. Being able to display two pages of a book at once, and turn them at the same time.
2. Being able to take notes next to the book I'm reading, and have the option to save them with the book file as annotations, or in a separate note or notebook. (So if I'm working on something and referencing or getting inspiration form different books, my notes can be independent of the books.)

Also, I've been wondering if you can scribble notes in ePubs? Or just PDFs?

norweger · 03-24-2018, 06:53 AM

I have an accessory wish for Onyx, and that's to make a maths compass for their devices. It can be very simple. Just like this, but where the needle would go they would have a soft end.

We could attach the Onyx Stylus where the pencil would go.

There are millions of pupils and students who'd like to get all the advantages of paper while having everything stored digitally. I think if Onyx would marked it right, they be the strongest brand in this niche.

DaleDe · 03-24-2018, 03:41 PM

It is so much easier to do this in software. A circle is an easy object to create mathematically. A drawing app can do all of the typical drafting aids and a specific drafting app would be even better.

Dale

pdfreaderguy · 03-24-2018, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HoldOntoMyPencil

[LIST][*] Different stroke colors (maybe a selection of grey values).

Please give me a pen marker and a partial opacity marker. One to write as a then, and one to immediately click over to to act as a highlighter. Highlighter must be free hand like a real highlighter

norweger · 03-25-2018, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleDe

It is so much easier to do this in software. A circle is an easy object to create mathematically. A drawing app can do all of the typical drafting aids and a specific drafting app would be even better.

Dale

The point is to use the tablet as if it was paper. So, on exams you use the regular maths compass just like you did the stylus maths compass.

And it's not for just circles, but everything else in geometry.

Philippe D. · 03-26-2018, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by norweger

The point is to use the tablet as if it was paper. So, on exams you use the regular maths compass just like you did the stylus maths compass.

And it's not for just circles, but everything else in geometry.

For this, the screen being depressed compared to the boder would cause problems. It would make it much harder to use, say, a long ruler.

(I tried drawing a line with a ruler; with a metal ruler it didn't work, I suspect because the ruler contact with the screen interferes with the stylus. Then I used a wooden pencil as a ruler, and it worked - so this at least you can do. For a compass, I have no solutions)

What would really be my dream feature would be OCR software that translates my formulas into LaTeX. That would make the maths experience on the Max 2 sooooo much beter...

norweger · 03-26-2018, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Philippe D.

For this, the screen being depressed compared to the boder would cause problems. It would make it much harder to use, say, a long ruler.

(I tried drawing a line with a ruler; with a metal ruler it didn't work, I suspect because the ruler contact with the screen interferes with the stylus. Then I used a wooden pencil as a ruler, and it worked - so this at least you can do. For a compass, I have no solutions)

What would really be my dream feature would be OCR software that translates my formulas into LaTeX. That would make the maths experience on the Max 2 sooooo much beter...

Oh yeah. An OCR software that translates to LaTeX would be the best!

Eventually that will come, though most likely not done by Onyx. Thanks for the tip on the wooden pencil. I think such materials could be useful making a maths compass. Though there are problems to be solved, I think it's doable.

DuckieTigger · 03-26-2018, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by norweger

Oh yeah. An OCR software that translates to LaTeX would be the best!

Eventually that will come, though most likely not done by Onyx. Thanks for the tip on the wooden pencil. I think such materials could be useful making a maths compass. Though there are problems to be solved, I think it's doable.

As far as math compass is concerned just for circles, it would probably be better to use a plastic circle template. For measuring purposes I don't believe anything can be simulated without punching a hole in the screen.

sogaiu · 03-26-2018, 09:44 PM

On a related note, it's a bit on the slow side, but Geogebra seems to run ok.

norweger · 03-27-2018, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

As far as math compass is concerned just for circles, it would probably be better to use a plastic circle template. For measuring purposes I don't believe anything can be simulated without punching a hole in the screen.

The soft end I mentioned in my original post is stable and would be the replacement for the needle end in a regular maths compass. It wouldn't damage the screen. But the problem is that it would activate the touch screen.

Cushioning the needle end with such a soft end on this compass, and just putting a stylus where the pencil goes could work.

Philippe D. · 03-27-2018, 09:17 AM

This would not work too well for geometry, as precise placement would be difficult. So you'd have a hard time drawing a circle whose center is precisely defined.

I have an app on my iPad that does Latex conversion of small handwritten formulas reasonably well (MyScript MathPad), so the functionalities exist somehow. It doesn't look like they have an android version, though.

norweger · 04-01-2018, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Philippe D.

This would not work too well for geometry, as precise placement would be difficult. So you'd have a hard time drawing a circle whose center is precisely defined.

I have an app on my iPad that does Latex conversion of small handwritten formulas reasonably well (MyScript MathPad), so the functionalities exist somehow. It doesn't look like they have an android version, though.

Thanks for the app tip, Philippe. What do you think the issues would be for placement? I own a stylus with such a "soft end pad", and it's used for drawing.

Philippe D. · 04-02-2018, 05:23 AM

I'd say it would be difficult to precisely place the soft end, say, at the crossing of two previous lines; this is often required for precise geometry. I haven't used a compass for real in years, but that was the main reason I'd want to use a sharp pointy end.

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03-09-2018, 08:38 PM	#33
blue_skies Evangelist Posts: 402 Karma: 1143880 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Ohio Device: Boyue T62+; Boyue Mimas; and my old Kindle Keyboard	I wish it had a front light. Is it true that there is no way an eInk screen that large will ever be able to have a front light? If so, what is the largest size that can support a front light? I would really love to buy the Max 2. It has everything I've wanted in an eReader/note-taking device. The software features I would like are: 1. Being able to display two pages of a book at once, and turn them at the same time. 2. Being able to take notes next to the book I'm reading, and have the option to save them with the book file as annotations, or in a separate note or notebook. (So if I'm working on something and referencing or getting inspiration form different books, my notes can be independent of the books.) Also, I've been wondering if you can scribble notes in ePubs? Or just PDFs?

03-24-2018, 06:53 AM	#34
norweger Addict Posts: 218 Karma: 29322 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Norway Device: Android-phone, HTC Desire Z	I have an accessory wish for Onyx, and that's to make a maths compass for their devices. It can be very simple. Just like this, but where the needle would go they would have a soft end. We could attach the Onyx Stylus where the pencil would go. There are millions of pupils and students who'd like to get all the advantages of paper while having everything stored digitally. I think if Onyx would marked it right, they be the strongest brand in this niche.

03-24-2018, 03:41 PM	#35
DaleDe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,470 Karma: 13095790 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Grass Valley, CA Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7	It is so much easier to do this in software. A circle is an easy object to create mathematically. A drawing app can do all of the typical drafting aids and a specific drafting app would be even better. Dale

03-26-2018, 09:44 PM	#41
sogaiu Addict Posts: 209 Karma: 83543 Join Date: Jan 2018 Device: none	On a related note, it's a bit on the slow side, but Geogebra seems to run ok.

03-27-2018, 09:17 AM	#43
Philippe D. Addict Posts: 276 Karma: 3600000 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: France Device: Kobo Aura H2o; reMarkable; Onyx Max 2 Pro	This would not work too well for geometry, as precise placement would be difficult. So you'd have a hard time drawing a circle whose center is precisely defined. I have an app on my iPad that does Latex conversion of small handwritten formulas reasonably well (MyScript MathPad), so the functionalities exist somehow. It doesn't look like they have an android version, though.

04-02-2018, 05:23 AM	#45
Philippe D. Addict Posts: 276 Karma: 3600000 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: France Device: Kobo Aura H2o; reMarkable; Onyx Max 2 Pro	I'd say it would be difficult to precisely place the soft end, say, at the crossing of two previous lines; this is often required for precise geometry. I haven't used a compass for real in years, but that was the main reason I'd want to use a sharp pointy end.