New ebook reader software "libris Me" - looking for beta testers - Page 2

ghostyjack · 11-03-2010, 05:45 AM

Looks interesting so might give it a go when I get home from work.

Does this software have any viewing capabilities? It would be good to be able to read the book out straight out of the libris Me library. As well as my Sony reader, I've also got a convertible laptop/tablet PC, so having a program that can manage my library and allow me to read the books would be great. Currently I have to use multiple programs for this, an all-in-one solution would be preferable.

irgendwienet · 11-03-2010, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ghostyjack

Looks interesting so might give it a go when I get home from work.

Does this software have any viewing capabilities? It would be good to be able to read the book out straight out of the libris Me library. As well as my Sony reader, I've also got a convertible laptop/tablet PC, so having a program that can manage my library and allow me to read the books would be great. Currently I have to use multiple programs for this, an all-in-one solution would be preferable.

Unfortunately the current beta version does not come with viewing capabilities yet. We also think an all-in-one solution is preferable and working on such features.
This is a very early beta version to receive early feedback from users (like yours). With some time we will extend the feature set of libris Me more and more to become such an all-in-one solution.

Ken Irving · 11-03-2010, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rcuadro

What the heck, time to start Parallels and get Windows 7 running to see...

Ugh. stupid .NET framework... Oh well, I tried.

Can this program really sync? Or did something get lost in translation?

I love to beta, but I'm on the same page in regard to .NET 4. From a programmer's standpoint that may be great, but from the standpoint of a user it can be limiting and chancy. E.g., at the lower limit (XP with SP3) one runs the risk of losing out at Microsoft's whim, so won't be trying this one out.

irgendwienet · 11-03-2010, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Irving

I love to beta, but I'm on the same page in regard to .NET 4. From a programmer's standpoint that may be great, but from the standpoint of a user it can be limiting and chancy. E.g., at the lower limit (XP with SP3) one runs the risk of losing out at Microsoft's whim, so won't be trying this one out.

Let's don't argue about .NET or not. I just want to explain that libris Me will run on Windows XP without any limitations because .NET 4 works on XP as well.
The user just needs to install .NET 4; if he doesn't the libirs Me setup will offer to do this automatically.

I don't think we are losing a lot of users since libris Me runs on all Windows Versions from XP on. The .NET 4 update doesn't hurt anybody. If somebody doesn't like to install it he can't run libirs Me.

andyh2000 · 11-03-2010, 08:09 AM

My Sophos anti-virus throws a hissy fit when I run the libris setup application - it detects "Mal/EncPK-OJ" malicious behaviour. The setup fails with an error message "Unable to elevate". Is it try to get elevated privileges or something? (This is on Windows XP SP 3 with .NET 4 freshly installed.)

Andrew

irgendwienet · 11-03-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by andyh2000

My Sophos anti-virus throws a hissy fit when I run the libris setup application - it detects "Mal/EncPK-OJ" malicious behaviour. The setup fails with an error message "Unable to elevate". Is it try to get elevated privileges or something? (This is on Windows XP SP 3 with .NET 4 freshly installed.)

Andrew

Hello Andrew

the setup should be fine and I scanned it again with some other anti-virus without any problems. Later today I will have a look on how Sophos behaves.

During installation the setup needs to elevate if you are not an administrator on your computer to install. I will try to reproduce your setup and have a look at it.

irgendwienet · 11-03-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by andyh2000

My Sophos anti-virus throws a hissy fit when I run the libris setup application - it detects "Mal/EncPK-OJ" malicious behaviour. The setup fails with an error message "Unable to elevate". Is it try to get elevated privileges or something? (This is on Windows XP SP 3 with .NET 4 freshly installed.)

Andrew

We analyzed this problem and figured out what happened. First of all there is NO VIRUS within the setup.
Some part of the setup compresses its content in a way Sophos anti-virus doesn't like. So Sophos blocks a single file from the setup that is needed to elevate the process and brings up the error message you see.

If you like, you could install libris Me by turning Sophos off. But I also understand that this doesn't sound very trustworthy...

We already created a workaround, so upcoming setups will be fine even if Sophos anti-virus is used. We will publish the new setup soon, but we need some time to verify that this change won't break the setup on any other combination of Windows, UAC-Settings and anti-virus software used.

Andrew, if you like please send me a private message with your e-mail address. I will be happy to send you the setup right now.

andyh2000 · 11-03-2010, 07:07 PM

Thanks for looking into this so quickly. Any chance you could PM me a link to download the new setup file from?

Andrew

gertblij · 11-04-2010, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by irgendwienet

Hello daffy
libris Me is a commercial product but we haven’t decided about the business model yet. Maybe libris Me stays free, maybe some version / edition of it stays free. This all depends on feedback from users, device vendors and publishing houses.

Let me know when you have decided that at all times you will provide a full featured free version and I'll have a look. Until then I will not waste my time (Why on earth should I pay for something that is available for free elsewhere?)

jbcohen · 11-04-2010, 10:25 AM

Will give it a try. Personally I see some openings for your software - Calibre is an excellent software pacakge and I don't want to seem anti-calibre, it does nto support my reader and therefore is of minimal use.

357mag · 11-06-2010, 10:40 PM

I have tried to import my collection of my non-protected mobi files and I keep getting an error; "libris Me cannot import -files"

What am I doing wrong here? I have imported the same files into Calibre without any problem.

irgendwienet · 11-07-2010, 05:01 AM

Hello 357mag

the behavior you are telling about shouldn't be the case. I just tested the current and the upcoming version of libris Me. Both can import mobi files without any problems on my machines. I used the Import-Button in the Ribbon and I also drag-and-dropped files from the Windows Explorer onto libris Me.

I'm wondering about the error message you are citing. This message should be something like "libris Me cannot import xls-files" for any file extension libris me does not know about.
libirs Me takes the file extension of any file during import to detect its type and decide how to import this file. For some reason the file you are trying to import seems to have no file extension at all. This could be the reason why libris Me cannot import it and why it cannot give a good error message.

Can you please check the file extension of the files you are importing? On Windows one can setup Windows to not show extensions at all. If this option is turned on on your computer a file could look like "name.mobi" but in reality it is called "name.mobi." with an empty extension after the last period.

Nevertheless we will publish an update to libris Me later today or tomorrow (try the check for updates button in the help-ribbon). Unfortunately this update will not fix you problem but the mobi-file handling will work better once you are able to import the files (the metadata will be read out of the file now).

If you still have some trouble, please send me a private message or keep using this forum.

ClairePMR · 11-08-2010, 11:11 AM

This looks interesting, and I'd like to give it a shot. I'm another Calibre user, and I like the way it works, but often have a need for converting/loading Word docs onto my nook. This seems like it would streamline the process a little. The arbitrary web piece also looks like it might meet some of my needs.

paola · 11-08-2010, 11:25 AM

I am new to ebooks, so if one of your objective is to check how fool proof your system is, I am your folk

One question, though: are there any devices that you positively know are not compatible with yoru system?

ColdSun · 11-08-2010, 03:26 PM

As a developer myself, I just want to chime in with some thoughts.

First of all, getting users to change to new technology is always hard. Hence all the whining about .NET 4. Seriously, it really is a big improvement in .NET technologies, but it is also JUST a framework. No different than loading DirectX or .NET 3.5 on your system. Hell, there are even some people developing .NET 2.0 applications still, and yes you have to load that old framework too. Loading .NET 4.0 will not hurt your computer and does nothing but give you access to applications using the new framework which actually has huge benefits to you, especially in the case of user interface, which looking at this application you can tell they are making good use of the .NET 4.0 platform.

I don't work with the folks who make this software by the way, so get it out of your mind!

I just know how they must be feeling. How do you give people the best of application you can provide with the best technology when people are resistant to change? You have to continue forward and do the best job possible. In the end, if your product is good, people who are serious about having a good product for whatever task your product performs, will look into your application.

You can never beat pricing though. That is always going to be an issue, and as long as Calibre, an excellent piece of software in itself, is free -you will have a tough sale on your hands. I would suggest you keep to the free model and make money through partners related to the application. There are many ways to do this, but I'll let your marketing guys figure it out.

P.S. Does it offer reading of the ebooks on the PC as well? I'm not really happy with the viewer built into Calibre. I would definately like to see a reader for the PC (to use on my netbook) come out that matches some of the readers out for ebook devices. FBReader is the best one I can find right now. I'm talking something like Aldiko with visual libraries and animations. The Nook PC reader is pretty nice, but the settings are terribly limited. If this is a WPF application you could do some great animation stuff on page transitions and book/open/close. Are you using any after-market controls like Telerik or Devexpress?

P.S.S. Installer works perfectly for me. Just waiting on a key.

11-03-2010, 08:09 AM	#20
andyh2000 Avid reader Posts: 825 Karma: 6377682 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Device: Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 4 / Kindle Paperwhite	Malicious software behaviour? My Sophos anti-virus throws a hissy fit when I run the libris setup application - it detects "Mal/EncPK-OJ" malicious behaviour. The setup fails with an error message "Unable to elevate". Is it try to get elevated privileges or something? (This is on Windows XP SP 3 with .NET 4 freshly installed.) Andrew Last edited by andyh2000; 11-03-2010 at 08:12 AM. Reason: spelling

11-06-2010, 10:40 PM	#26
357mag Connoisseur Posts: 52 Karma: 248 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: iPad and Galaxy S5	I have tried to import my collection of my non-protected mobi files and I keep getting an error; "libris Me cannot import -files" What am I doing wrong here? I have imported the same files into Calibre without any problem. Last edited by 357mag; 11-06-2010 at 11:00 PM.

11-08-2010, 03:26 PM	#30
ColdSun Developer/Device Reviews Posts: 588 Karma: 22183 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Device: Sony Xperia Tablet Z, Kindle Paperwhite 2, Lenovo Yoga 8, IPad 3	As a developer myself, I just want to chime in with some thoughts. First of all, getting users to change to new technology is always hard. Hence all the whining about .NET 4. Seriously, it really is a big improvement in .NET technologies, but it is also JUST a framework. No different than loading DirectX or .NET 3.5 on your system. Hell, there are even some people developing .NET 2.0 applications still, and yes you have to load that old framework too. Loading .NET 4.0 will not hurt your computer and does nothing but give you access to applications using the new framework which actually has huge benefits to you, especially in the case of user interface, which looking at this application you can tell they are making good use of the .NET 4.0 platform. I don't work with the folks who make this software by the way, so get it out of your mind! I just know how they must be feeling. How do you give people the best of application you can provide with the best technology when people are resistant to change? You have to continue forward and do the best job possible. In the end, if your product is good, people who are serious about having a good product for whatever task your product performs, will look into your application. You can never beat pricing though. That is always going to be an issue, and as long as Calibre, an excellent piece of software in itself, is free -you will have a tough sale on your hands. I would suggest you keep to the free model and make money through partners related to the application. There are many ways to do this, but I'll let your marketing guys figure it out. P.S. Does it offer reading of the ebooks on the PC as well? I'm not really happy with the viewer built into Calibre. I would definately like to see a reader for the PC (to use on my netbook) come out that matches some of the readers out for ebook devices. FBReader is the best one I can find right now. I'm talking something like Aldiko with visual libraries and animations. The Nook PC reader is pretty nice, but the settings are terribly limited. If this is a WPF application you could do some great animation stuff on page transitions and book/open/close. Are you using any after-market controls like Telerik or Devexpress? P.S.S. Installer works perfectly for me. Just waiting on a key. Last edited by ColdSun; 11-08-2010 at 03:36 PM.

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11-03-2010, 05:45 AM	#16
ghostyjack Guru Posts: 718 Karma: 1085610 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, England Device: PRS-T1, 1825PT, Galaxy Tab, One X, TF700T, Aura HD, Nexus 7	Looks interesting so might give it a go when I get home from work. Does this software have any viewing capabilities? It would be good to be able to read the book out straight out of the libris Me library. As well as my Sony reader, I've also got a convertible laptop/tablet PC, so having a program that can manage my library and allow me to read the books would be great. Currently I have to use multiple programs for this, an all-in-one solution would be preferable.

11-03-2010, 07:07 PM	#23
andyh2000 Avid reader Posts: 825 Karma: 6377682 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Device: Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 4 / Kindle Paperwhite	Thanks for looking into this so quickly. Any chance you could PM me a link to download the new setup file from? Andrew

11-04-2010, 10:25 AM	#25
jbcohen Wizard Posts: 3,025 Karma: 11196738 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Piper College Device: Samsung A21	Will give it a try. Personally I see some openings for your software - Calibre is an excellent software pacakge and I don't want to seem anti-calibre, it does nto support my reader and therefore is of minimal use.

11-07-2010, 05:01 AM	#27
irgendwienet Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: Sony PRS-505, Sony PRS-600, iLiad iRex, Barnes & Noble Nook	Hello 357mag the behavior you are telling about shouldn't be the case. I just tested the current and the upcoming version of libris Me. Both can import mobi files without any problems on my machines. I used the Import-Button in the Ribbon and I also drag-and-dropped files from the Windows Explorer onto libris Me. I'm wondering about the error message you are citing. This message should be something like "libris Me cannot import xls-files" for any file extension libris me does not know about. libirs Me takes the file extension of any file during import to detect its type and decide how to import this file. For some reason the file you are trying to import seems to have no file extension at all. This could be the reason why libris Me cannot import it and why it cannot give a good error message. Can you please check the file extension of the files you are importing? On Windows one can setup Windows to not show extensions at all. If this option is turned on on your computer a file could look like "name.mobi" but in reality it is called "name.mobi." with an empty extension after the last period. Nevertheless we will publish an update to libris Me later today or tomorrow (try the check for updates button in the help-ribbon). Unfortunately this update will not fix you problem but the mobi-file handling will work better once you are able to import the files (the metadata will be read out of the file now). If you still have some trouble, please send me a private message or keep using this forum.

11-08-2010, 11:11 AM	#28
ClairePMR Groupie Posts: 164 Karma: 1030058 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New England Device: PocketBook Color, Kindle, EB1150, Galaxy Tab 2 10.1, Surface Pro 2017	This looks interesting, and I'd like to give it a shot. I'm another Calibre user, and I like the way it works, but often have a need for converting/loading Word docs onto my nook. This seems like it would streamline the process a little. The arbitrary web piece also looks like it might meet some of my needs.

11-08-2010, 11:25 AM	#29
paola Wizard Posts: 2,824 Karma: 5843878 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Device: Pocketbook Pro 903, (beloved Pocketbook 360 RIP), Kobo Mini, Kobo Aura	I am new to ebooks, so if one of your objective is to check how fool proof your system is, I am your folk One question, though: are there any devices that you positively know are not compatible with yoru system?

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