Why developers pick iOS over android.

monkeyluis · 04-06-2012, 07:41 AM

http://www.macworld.com/article/1166...r_android.html

Interesting article. & it makes sense.

lorenzoens · 04-06-2012, 08:27 AM

Well well. We were supposed to make love undisturbed here, why an Applefan can come here trolling?

Just joking, I just acted like someone does in the Apple section

Open Source supporters will have to learn from intelligent critics, always. So thanks for the link.

Citizens interested to democratic values will never support things like Ibooks, trusted computing and closed digital environments, despite how enjoyable and trendy could they be.

Living together is more important than just having fun.

monkeyluis · 04-06-2012, 08:44 AM

I'm an apple fan but I also want the android platform to succeed as I have an investment in it. I wasn't trolling, I was posting a valid link. I didn't say anything negative Bout android nor bash it's users. I think you may be the one trolling.

I'd like to see google take more control of its AppStore & it's services. It just seems all over the place lately.

paulsalter · 04-06-2012, 09:57 AM

going where the money is I can agree with the article, more iOS devices so more money to be made

making apps for iOS over Android because its easier I dont think I agree with, compare this to desktop computers, there are less models available running OS X compared to machines with Windows, yet windows gets more apps available

I use both platforms and can easily find apps I want (I dont download many though), if a developer doesnt make an app available for one platform I just go to a different developer for a similar app

lorenzoens · 04-06-2012, 10:52 AM

Louis, you missed something important in my post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by lorenzoens

Just joking, I just acted like someone does in the Apple section

(I didn't mean it's you). I totally agree there's much to do, seriously.

Canuck_in_Japan · 04-07-2012, 07:18 AM

I read it until I got to the part where the author claimed that Android owners couldn't figure out how to use wifi. Really? Let me be clear-which OS is the one for tech geeks and which one is for grandmas who like only having one button to push?
Also, since the article in question was about Instagram then this is topical:
Instagram app deepens class warfare between Apple and Android
Typical Apple cult entitlement. (As an iPhone owner I'm allowed to say stuff like that

)

Dave_S · 04-07-2012, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canuck_in_Japan

Typical Apple cult entitlement. (As an iPhone owner I'm allowed to say stuff like that

)

Namekuseijin · 04-07-2012, 07:43 PM

That article is simply ridden with braindead propaganda statements such as this:

"Earlier this week, Instagram—the beloved iPhone app for snapping, filtering, and sharing photographs—arrived on Android phones, nearly a year and half after the iPhone app’s initial release. Until that time, folks using Android phones could only look on longingly as their iPhone-wielding friends snapped and shared photos on the growing network"

I vaguely recall the name instagram and its connection to iOS. Seems to me like yet another app that applies filters to images and let them share to social networks. No, differently from Apple folks, I'm not in the "this is the miraculous one you should have" camp, obviously. So, no, "could only look on longingly" is hardly how I felt. I have not installed instagram, nor care about this kind of apps in any case.

But the article correctly pinpoints the gist of it:

"Go where the money is"

Obviously people rich enough to buy apple hardware and software have money to spare for thousands of different flashlight, x-rays and fart apps at 99 cents.

That said, as a software developer myself, me and a few other friends are of the opinion that Java development is easier than Object C development, mainly because of automatic memory management.

Still, both Apple and Google should be cautious now, because Microsoft has always won the hearts of developers with easy tools and developing for Windows Mobile in C# and Visual Studio should gain many, many developers... if only the money is there too...

Greg_E · 04-08-2012, 12:02 PM

This comes from a professional developer that I know when I asked him about writing his streaming radio app for Android because their iOS version had certain features that lacked in the Android players:

********************************
Programming in Android is a real PITA and some things like getting streaming audio to work well are far too difficult due to the lack of low level access to the hardware. iOS is much easier to deal with and is programmed directly in C so that is what we will stay with.
*********************************

It's of course a paraphrase but I could dig up the email if I needed to, not that any of you would likely know this person. Please note, I am about as far away from an apple fanboy as you can get without being called an all out hater, suffice to say they will not get money out of my pocket.

Namekuseijin · 04-08-2012, 03:35 PM

I regret to say your friend is very obviously a low-level C-head with masochist tendencies. He's right at home with Apple's Objective C.

you may point him to:

http://developer.android.com/referen...e-summary.html

to do media streaming in a high-level way.

OTOH, no automatic memory management is also the reason why iOS is usually a bit snappier than Android. A reasonable price to pay for much saner development.

tubemonkey · 04-08-2012, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namekuseijin

I vaguely recall the name instagram and its connection to iOS. Seems to me like yet another app that applies filters to images and let them share to social networks.

Until I glanced at this article, I never heard of Instagram.

afv011 · 04-08-2012, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Until I glanced at this article, I never heard of Instagram.

Insta-what?

Don’t Bother with Instagram; Here are Five Better Alternatives for Android

HansTWN · 04-09-2012, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Until I glanced at this article, I never heard of Instagram.

Some cheap brand of instant coffee, perhaps?

Canuck_in_Japan · 04-09-2012, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afv011

Insta-what?

Don’t Bother with Instagram; Here are Five Better Alternatives for Android

Your link doesnt appear to have a link.

AlPe · 04-09-2012, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyluis

http://www.macworld.com/article/1166...r_android.html

Interesting article. & it makes sense.

I prefer reasoning with numbers and facts at hand, rather speculations:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-f...ck-2012-3?op=1

04-06-2012, 07:41 AM	#1
monkeyluis Banned Posts: 725 Karma: 656644 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Central Florida Device: iPad "3", Kindle Touch, Kindle Fire, iPhone 4S	Why developers pick iOS over android. http://www.macworld.com/article/1166...r_android.html Interesting article. & it makes sense.

04-06-2012, 08:27 AM	#2
lorenzoens ex se ens Posts: 348 Karma: 1020253 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Italy Device: enTourage edge & Pocket, Sony T1, Galaxy Note I, ex many others	Well well. We were supposed to make love undisturbed here, why an Applefan can come here trolling? Just joking, I just acted like someone does in the Apple section Open Source supporters will have to learn from intelligent critics, always. So thanks for the link. Citizens interested to democratic values will never support things like Ibooks, trusted computing and closed digital environments, despite how enjoyable and trendy could they be. Living together is more important than just having fun. Last edited by lorenzoens; 04-06-2012 at 08:31 AM.

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04-06-2012, 08:44 AM	#3
monkeyluis Banned Posts: 725 Karma: 656644 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Central Florida Device: iPad "3", Kindle Touch, Kindle Fire, iPhone 4S	I'm an apple fan but I also want the android platform to succeed as I have an investment in it. I wasn't trolling, I was posting a valid link. I didn't say anything negative Bout android nor bash it's users. I think you may be the one trolling. I'd like to see google take more control of its AppStore & it's services. It just seems all over the place lately.

04-06-2012, 09:57 AM	#4
paulsalter Fanatic Posts: 579 Karma: 3243761 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Device: Kindle Fire HD8	going where the money is I can agree with the article, more iOS devices so more money to be made making apps for iOS over Android because its easier I dont think I agree with, compare this to desktop computers, there are less models available running OS X compared to machines with Windows, yet windows gets more apps available I use both platforms and can easily find apps I want (I dont download many though), if a developer doesnt make an app available for one platform I just go to a different developer for a similar app

04-07-2012, 07:18 AM	#6
Canuck_in_Japan Wizard Posts: 1,475 Karma: 14328611 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tokyo, Japan Device: Aura, Aura H2O, Kindle PW3	I read it until I got to the part where the author claimed that Android owners couldn't figure out how to use wifi. Really? Let me be clear-which OS is the one for tech geeks and which one is for grandmas who like only having one button to push? Also, since the article in question was about Instagram then this is topical: Instagram app deepens class warfare between Apple and Android Typical Apple cult entitlement. (As an iPhone owner I'm allowed to say stuff like that )

04-07-2012, 07:43 PM	#8
Namekuseijin affordable chipmunk Posts: 1,290 Karma: 9863855 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Brazil Device: Sony XPeria ZL, Kindle Paperwhite	That article is simply ridden with braindead propaganda statements such as this: "Earlier this week, Instagram—the beloved iPhone app for snapping, filtering, and sharing photographs—arrived on Android phones, nearly a year and half after the iPhone app’s initial release. Until that time, folks using Android phones could only look on longingly as their iPhone-wielding friends snapped and shared photos on the growing network" I vaguely recall the name instagram and its connection to iOS. Seems to me like yet another app that applies filters to images and let them share to social networks. No, differently from Apple folks, I'm not in the "this is the miraculous one you should have" camp, obviously. So, no, "could only look on longingly" is hardly how I felt. I have not installed instagram, nor care about this kind of apps in any case. But the article correctly pinpoints the gist of it: "Go where the money is" Obviously people rich enough to buy apple hardware and software have money to spare for thousands of different flashlight, x-rays and fart apps at 99 cents. That said, as a software developer myself, me and a few other friends are of the opinion that Java development is easier than Object C development, mainly because of automatic memory management. Still, both Apple and Google should be cautious now, because Microsoft has always won the hearts of developers with easy tools and developing for Windows Mobile in C# and Visual Studio should gain many, many developers... if only the money is there too...

04-08-2012, 12:02 PM	#9
Greg_E Zealot Posts: 103 Karma: 1180 Join Date: Oct 2011 Device: Acer Iconia a500, XP tablet PC	This comes from a professional developer that I know when I asked him about writing his streaming radio app for Android because their iOS version had certain features that lacked in the Android players: ****************************** Programming in Android is a real PITA and some things like getting streaming audio to work well are far too difficult due to the lack of low level access to the hardware. iOS is much easier to deal with and is programmed directly in C so that is what we will stay with. ******************************* It's of course a paraphrase but I could dig up the email if I needed to, not that any of you would likely know this person. Please note, I am about as far away from an apple fanboy as you can get without being called an all out hater, suffice to say they will not get money out of my pocket.

04-08-2012, 03:35 PM	#10
Namekuseijin affordable chipmunk Posts: 1,290 Karma: 9863855 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Brazil Device: Sony XPeria ZL, Kindle Paperwhite	I regret to say your friend is very obviously a low-level C-head with masochist tendencies. He's right at home with Apple's Objective C. you may point him to: http://developer.android.com/referen...e-summary.html to do media streaming in a high-level way. OTOH, no automatic memory management is also the reason why iOS is usually a bit snappier than Android. A reasonable price to pay for much saner development.

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