An insight into the heart of a publisher

[Bilbo1967]

Originally Posted by TGS

I quite accept that you can't see how anybody would be offended - but I also accept that some people genuinely were offended. There is no contradiction between you not seeing how something can be the case, and it actually being the case.

True - I can't argue with that, well put.

Of course though, I'm right and they're wrong

[TGS]

Originally Posted by Ea

But why should they apologise if the error was completely un-intentional?

Because they caused offence - just like if I unintentionally step on someones foot I apologise - I don't blame them for putting their foot where I wanted to put mine.

[TGS]

Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

Of course though, I'm right and they're wrong

Well yes, there is that of course

[tompe]

Originally Posted by TGS

I quite accept that you can't see how anybody would be offended - but I also accept that some people genuinely were offended. There is no contradiction between you not seeing how something can be the case, and it actually being the case.

Yes, but it is also no contradiction that nearlly all the people saying they are offended only pretend to be offended. Group pressure and getting attention are strong factors.

Every book published will offend somebody. So obviously you have to interpret the statements not exactly literally.

[charleski]

Originally Posted by Ea

But why should they apologise if the error was completely un-intentional?

Because they screwed up. If you get distracted while driving and crash into another car you don't get a free-pass by just saying it was an accident.

[tompe]

Originally Posted by charleski

Because they screwed up. If you get distracted while driving and crash into another car you don't get a free-pass by just saying it was an accident.

It depends on what distracted you.

And even if you are responsible for causing the crash (unintentionally) you do not have to apologize. Your insurance have to pay the damage and if a crime have been committed there can be other consequences but you do not have to apologize.

[TGS]

Originally Posted by tompe

Yes, but it is also no contradiction that nearlly all the people saying they are offended only pretend to be offended.

How on earth would you know that?

How about they apologise to the people who actually were offended - if they offered an apology to anyone who was offended then it clearly wouldn't apply to those who weren't really offended.

[charleski]

Originally Posted by tompe

It depends on what distracted you.

And even if you are responsible for causing the crash (unintentionally) you do not have to apologize. Your insurance have to pay the damage and if a crime have been committed there can be other consequences but you do not have to apologize.

Ok, so you're saying Sessions should end up paying a fine instead? OK...

Don't be ridiculous. It was a grossly offensive error for which any sane individual would be rushing to apologise. All his attitude has done is inflame a minor situation into something that's hit the news, and that's just stupid.

[kindlekitten]

ANYWAY!!!! my POINT was that the flippant attitude of the publisher is an indicator of how they are more than happy to trample all over people and their feelings. once again, a simple civil apology would NOT have made mountains out of molehills. yes, charles, you are correct, it is the attitude.

Originally Posted by charleski

Ok, so you're saying Sessions should end up paying a fine instead? OK...

Don't be ridiculous. It was a grossly offensive error for which any sane individual would be rushing to apologise. All his attitude has done is inflame a minor situation into something that's hit the news, and that's just stupid.

Originally Posted by Sparrow

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/da...sh_78187.shtml

1 swede, peeled and diced
1 tsp salt
50g/2oz butter
salt and freshly ground black pepper
Method

1. Place the swede in a pan of cold water and sprinkle in 1 tsp of salt.
2. Bring to the boil and reduce the heat to a slow simmer.
3. Cook for 10 to 15 minutes or until tender. Drain the swede and return to the pan.
4. Mash with a potato masher, stir in the butter, salt and freshly ground black pepper, to taste, and serve.

Swedes have been a root vegetable a lot longer than there have been arrogant Australian publishers

[pholy]

Swedes have been a root vegetable a lot longer

Gee, I was gonna say there was a difference between a Swede and a swede, but now I'm confused -

[TGS]

Originally Posted by pholy

Gee, I was gonna say there was a difference between a Swede and a swede, but now I'm confused -

Whenever I serve them to my (Danish) mother-in-law she reminds me that, as a child, they used to feed them to the cows.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

Typos always offend me if I paid hard-earned money for a book - just shows the publisher doesn't care about the customer.

I only find a typo in an eBook offensive if that same typo is not in the pBook version as well. That means that eBooks don't get the same level of proofreading that pBooks do.

[recluse]

I think we are looking at a no win scenario. The typo is kinda funny, but if one person is offended, the publisher should respond in a mature manner. On the other hand, "freshly ground white people" would just be kinda funny. Any offended parties would be treated like cranky five year olds.

[gastan]

It seems that some people spend most of their life looking for something to be offended by. When you're only looking for the bad, it usually doesn't take much to find it.

[Kali Yuga]

Seriously, this is beyond a non-issue. The only thing sillier than getting offended by this is acting like a statement by a publisher is an indicator of the character or "true nature" of an entire company.