How many of you plan NOT to mess with your Kindle Fire (root etc)? - Page 2

Merischino · 11-21-2011, 03:03 PM

I answered yes ut id like to clarify: I will be tinkering but I'm not planinnnng yo root the device. I have a jailbroken Iphone and I can already see that "messing about" with the fire is a lot easier/more accessible than on the Jo's walled garden in terms of access to non-store approved 3rd party options. Plenty messing to be done here without necessity to root.

Meemo · 11-21-2011, 03:29 PM

I don't consider sideloading to be on the same plane as rooting. Probably this poll should have 3 choices: rooting, sideloading, and walled garden. The lovely thing is that Amazon left a gate open in that walled garden. So I've sideloaded Getjar and some outside apps. I've got GO Launcher so I can switch between Amazon's Home Page and the Android-look Home Page easily, depending on what I'm trying to get to. And that's part of what I'm loving about the Fire vs a Nook Color rooted with an N2A card (which I also have) - much easier to tap an icon than to turn on & off to switch between modes.

So I too voted that yes, I'll be sideloading, but I'm not rooting.

wizwor · 11-21-2011, 03:38 PM

I have loaded apps not part of the amazon store, but have no intention to alter or root my Fire.

venussuz · 11-21-2011, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by weatherman

Aside from the bugs, I think overall the Fire is a pretty well organized device and the interface is growing on me. Normally I'm a tinkerer, but in this case I'm going to leave it pretty much stock for the forseeable future. In fact, I'm not even sure I'm going to be side-loading a lot of apps or installing the Android Market - frankly I don't like the idea of having to constantly check to see if apps need updating, or bothering with apps that aren't compatible. And the Amazon App Store is a pretty good experience. Eventually I'm sure it will be a much bigger store once developers realize the size of the market they'll be reaching.

I couldn't agree more. I voted 1 because I want the ability to sideload apps, tho I don't think there will be much need for that as more apps get approved for the Fire. The UI is very functional as is, so no need to install Cyanogen or other mods. Loving this device.

monkeyluis · 11-21-2011, 08:25 PM

I really hate when people say walled garden. The only thing walled is the amazon app store. But as others have said, you can still side load apps. I personally love this "walled garden" and I continue to refer to anything outside of the app stores as flea markets. I prefer my apps to go through a quality control system. There is nothing wrong with that. My devices, iOS included, are still very capable, and as I have in previous posts I can prove anyone wrong that says I can't do certain things with my devices. So in effect, with the various apps I have on either the Fire or iOS, my devices are actually quite open. I'm still learning the Fire, as it is brand new to me as well as Android, but I can do everything I need on it.

markkenzy · 11-21-2011, 08:50 PM

I'm gonna get some sideloading apps, but I'm not interested in rooting my kindle or what so ever...

pgnds · 11-22-2011, 12:26 AM

I am only sideloading.

Andy_T · 11-22-2011, 04:25 AM

I'love to spend my money in Amazon's "walled garden" but being a European User without a US credit card (so far) I am looking for options to get apps other than load .apk's from dubious sources...

Regards,
Andy

xchaotic · 11-22-2011, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy_T

I'love to spend my money in Amazon's "walled garden" but being a European User without a US credit card (so far) I am looking for options to get apps other than load .apk's from dubious sources...

Regards,
Andy

I don't think that's much of a consolation, but I'm in a similar position and generally I find the copyright agreements in general, and this one in particular are rather unfavorable if you want to be early to the market and live outside of US

As for why I bundled sideloading and rooting together is with sideloading you can modify your Fire's behaviour to a huge extent. For someone who is a content or app developer, it's a moving target, that is a bit harder to aim for than one UI, resource availability etc - I've just started exploring the Android as the OS and I know how apps can cater for different screen sizes, CPUs, memory requirements etc, but to me, as content producer, that is something of a nightmare that shouldn't be.
With Kindle Fire I can seem the game changing enough that you can target a specific device, with a consistent config, unless of course everybody decides to tinker and change it completely

Now as to whether you want to produce a product that runs on everything, including you microwave (where are they btw) that's another discussion, for now I wanted to know what percentage of people are happy with the experience provided by Amazon and initially my gut feeling is that the group is large enough to bother...

abookreader · 11-22-2011, 10:05 AM

I've sideloaded a few things - Dropbox, the nook Android app

I don't plan to root or mess around too much with it unless I see it gives me some sort of awesome added capability.

The person who stuck Windows 3.1 on it though totally cracks me up. That is definitely somebody who likes to do things just because they can.

Donnageddon · 11-23-2011, 05:25 PM

No rooting for me.

But with the helpful guidance of the members here, I have successfully sideloaded Mantano Reader, and ported over some of my epub books.

BTW the Mantano Reader is a great app! Really like its flexibility. And it is great to be reading epubs on a Kindle. Never thought that would happen...

Barbara1955 · 11-23-2011, 05:40 PM

IF something dont work Right out of Box for me I return it! I Just to Dumb to figure out the Root stuff!

Blossom · 11-23-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Donnageddon

No rooting for me.

But with the helpful guidance of the members here, I have successfully sideloaded Mantano Reader, and ported over some of my epub books.

BTW the Mantano Reader is a great app! Really like its flexibility. And it is great to be reading epubs on a Kindle. Never thought that would happen...

I really like Mantano too. It's my main reader app. The Kindle one is just is too bright. Amazon could learn alot by looking at that app.

I like the Nook App reader as well if only the margins were wider.

grvthang · 11-23-2011, 11:11 PM

I don't see the need for me to root. I've been able to load just about everything I'd like to load (within the device's capabilities). I was very pleasantly surprised that Amazon didn't lock it down tighter. This is a nice little unit for the price.

Noah98 · 11-23-2011, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SCION

I wouldn't lump sideloading apps in the same category as rooting. The stock Fire allows you to sideload apps. No hacks are required, simply turn the switch on within settings.

I agree!

View Poll Results: Do you plan on modyfing Kindle Fire's software in any way (rooting, sideloading etc)?
Yes, I love freedom to tinker	56	46.28%
No, I love the walled garden	65	53.72%
Voters: 121. You may not vote on this poll

11-23-2011, 05:25 PM	#26
Donnageddon Now you lishen here... Posts: 2,494 Karma: 479498 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle-ish Device: Sony PRS-650. Kobo Touch, Kindle Fire	No rooting for me. But with the helpful guidance of the members here, I have successfully sideloaded Mantano Reader, and ported over some of my epub books. BTW the Mantano Reader is a great app! Really like its flexibility. And it is great to be reading epubs on a Kindle. Never thought that would happen... Last edited by Donnageddon; 11-23-2011 at 05:28 PM. Reason: added a "." to my ellipsis

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11-21-2011, 03:03 PM	#16
Merischino Groupie Posts: 192 Karma: 436584 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: the beautiful Pacific Northwest Device: Kindle Oasis, Pixel 2, Kindle Fire HD 8	I answered yes ut id like to clarify: I will be tinkering but I'm not planinnnng yo root the device. I have a jailbroken Iphone and I can already see that "messing about" with the fire is a lot easier/more accessible than on the Jo's walled garden in terms of access to non-store approved 3rd party options. Plenty messing to be done here without necessity to root.

11-21-2011, 03:29 PM	#17
Meemo Groupie Posts: 175 Karma: 1023952 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: U.S. Device: Kindle Oasis (1st & 2nd gen) & a Paperwhite	I don't consider sideloading to be on the same plane as rooting. Probably this poll should have 3 choices: rooting, sideloading, and walled garden. The lovely thing is that Amazon left a gate open in that walled garden. So I've sideloaded Getjar and some outside apps. I've got GO Launcher so I can switch between Amazon's Home Page and the Android-look Home Page easily, depending on what I'm trying to get to. And that's part of what I'm loving about the Fire vs a Nook Color rooted with an N2A card (which I also have) - much easier to tap an icon than to turn on & off to switch between modes. So I too voted that yes, I'll be sideloading, but I'm not rooting.

11-21-2011, 03:38 PM	#18
wizwor Wizard Posts: 1,068 Karma: 23867385 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: kindle, fire	I have loaded apps not part of the amazon store, but have no intention to alter or root my Fire.

11-21-2011, 08:25 PM	#20
monkeyluis Banned Posts: 725 Karma: 656644 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Central Florida Device: iPad "3", Kindle Touch, Kindle Fire, iPhone 4S	I really hate when people say walled garden. The only thing walled is the amazon app store. But as others have said, you can still side load apps. I personally love this "walled garden" and I continue to refer to anything outside of the app stores as flea markets. I prefer my apps to go through a quality control system. There is nothing wrong with that. My devices, iOS included, are still very capable, and as I have in previous posts I can prove anyone wrong that says I can't do certain things with my devices. So in effect, with the various apps I have on either the Fire or iOS, my devices are actually quite open. I'm still learning the Fire, as it is brand new to me as well as Android, but I can do everything I need on it.

11-21-2011, 08:50 PM	#21
markkenzy Enthusiast Posts: 25 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2011 Device: Nook simple touch, Kindle Fire	I'm gonna get some sideloading apps, but I'm not interested in rooting my kindle or what so ever...

11-22-2011, 12:26 AM	#22
pgnds Patty Posts: 52 Karma: 492132 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA Device: K-3, Fire 1st & 5 gen 8"	I am only sideloading.

11-22-2011, 04:25 AM	#23
Andy_T Evangelist Posts: 431 Karma: 5121676 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Hannover, Germany Device: iPod touch, iPhone, iPad, Kindle KB, NT, Fire, PW II	I'love to spend my money in Amazon's "walled garden" but being a European User without a US credit card (so far) I am looking for options to get apps other than load .apk's from dubious sources... Regards, Andy

11-22-2011, 10:05 AM	#25
abookreader Wizard Posts: 1,516 Karma: 2567610 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kindles - Keyboard, Fire, 2-US, iPhone, iPAD	I've sideloaded a few things - Dropbox, the nook Android app I don't plan to root or mess around too much with it unless I see it gives me some sort of awesome added capability. The person who stuck Windows 3.1 on it though totally cracks me up. That is definitely somebody who likes to do things just because they can.

11-23-2011, 05:40 PM	#27
Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,454 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	IF something dont work Right out of Box for me I return it! I Just to Dumb to figure out the Root stuff!

11-23-2011, 11:11 PM	#29
grvthang Connoisseur Posts: 92 Karma: 53472 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Brooklyn NY Device: Kindle Fire, Droid Incredible2, Kindle Touch	I don't see the need for me to root. I've been able to load just about everything I'd like to load (within the device's capabilities). I was very pleasantly surprised that Amazon didn't lock it down tighter. This is a nice little unit for the price.