Silliness Friday's question of the day 7/25 - Page 3

nekokami · 07-25-2008, 09:07 PM

Huh?

No power outages here, just busy with work, kids, parental tech support, and a brother who keeps needing advice on the stats for his dissertation. Which then his adviser doesn't like-- the adviser wants simpler stats. Silly me. Just because the data are interdependent I though we could use a test that actually took advantage of that feature for increased power. Adviser just wants a simple comparison of means with margin of error. Which I don't think is appropriate with categorical data, but hey, I'm not on the dissertation committee.

Oh, wait, this isn't the rant thread, is it?

Thank you to everyone who expressed concern about the wild weather we're having up here. No excitement in my immediate vicinity, but a few miles west of here there was quite the swath of devastation.

Work was exciting yesterday. Sirens kept going off and loudspeakers were telling us that there was severe weather and we should "seek shelter immediately." So what do the oversized monkeys I work with do? Go out and stare at the sky. Heh.

Now, what was this about a t-shirt you were wanting? Or was it a picture of Queen Z fast-forwarded to 80+ years with a ratty unwashed shirt you were after? I don't normally take commissions of that type....

Spartacus2112 · 07-25-2008, 09:11 PM

Pshrynk, Is this one of your neighbors or friends?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25854715

slayda · 07-25-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nekokami

Huh?

No power outages here, just busy with work, kids, parental tech support, and a brother who keeps needing advice on the stats for his dissertation. Which then his adviser doesn't like-- the adviser wants simpler stats. Silly me. Just because the data are interdependent I though we could use a test that actually took advantage of that feature for increased power. Adviser just wants a simple comparison of means with margin of error. Which I don't think is appropriate with categorical data, but hey, I'm not on the dissertation committee.

Oh, wait, this isn't the rant thread, is it?

Thank you to everyone who expressed concern about the wild weather we're having up here. No excitement in my immediate vicinity, but a few miles west of here there was quite the swath of devastation.

Work was exciting yesterday. Sirens kept going off and loudspeakers were telling us that there was severe weather and we should "seek shelter immediately." So what do the oversized monkeys I work with do? Go out and stare at the sky. Heh.

Now, what was this about a t-shirt you were wanting? Or was it a picture of Queen Z fast-forwarded to 80+ years with a ratty unwashed shirt you were after? I don't normally take commissions of that type....

Have him check with his adviser to see if the distributions are heteroscadastic or homoscadastic.

I so wanted to work that into my dissertation defense but alas I ran out of steam and never finished the darn thing. No worries. 27 more working days until retirement.

nekokami · 07-25-2008, 09:47 PM

Well, if you want to group the data by participants, it would be heteroscedastic, I suppose, but I don't know how meaningful that would be given his experimental design. Such as it is. The point being that you can only generate a mean by grouping by participants, but that wasn't the point of his study, and he shouldn't be trying to generate any kind of mean from what are, simply, categorical data.

RWood · 07-25-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Patricia

Oh yeah?
He's asking the Friday question on a SATURDAY.
The answer is 'No way, dude.' Not on Saturdays. Never.

MOre advanced than us as always. Remember that we are far behind you as it is still Friday here and will be for another ~5-1/2 hours in Alaska (where the day finally ends.)

montsnmags · 07-26-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RWood

MOre advanced than us as always. Remember that we are far behind you as it is still Friday here and will be for another ~5-1/2 hours in Alaska (where the day finally ends.)

It gets worse. Down here it's next Wednesday. Clearly pshrynk has been into his own medicine cabinet again. We can only hope his confusion only extends to chronology.

(Hope springs eternal, but summers in the south of France)

Cheers,
Marc

GeoffC · 07-26-2008, 08:51 AM

Jeebers,
last week it was January,
this week, hopefully it'll be more like July should be...

pshrynk · 07-26-2008, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartacus2112

Pshrynk, Is this one of your neighbors or friends?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25854715

I knew I should have shaved that morning.

GeoffC · 07-26-2008, 09:48 AM

I hope that wasn't implying Pshrynk is "cranky"...

pshrynk · 07-26-2008, 12:52 PM

For those of you who were interested, the answer was, "Forty two."

jerryleejr · 07-26-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pshrynk

For those of you who were interested, the answer was, "Forty two."

I was going to say that but if felt to Douglas Adam's

JJ

pshrynk · 07-26-2008, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryleejr

I was going to say that but if felt to Douglas Adam's

JJ

It felt to Douglas Adam's what?

jerryleejr · 07-26-2008, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pshrynk

It felt to Douglas Adam's what?

That was supposed to be SO

pshrynk · 07-26-2008, 01:52 PM

Well, that's a lot less obscene feeling, then.

zelda_pinwheel · 07-26-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pshrynk

I'm starting my Askating for "Ratty, smelly Tom Waits T-shirt on an 80 year old woman."

Not sure what I'll come up with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pshrynk

Yeah. Didn't think so. Guess it's up to Nekochan to make one from scratch.

i'll see if i can help you out a bit.

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Originally Posted by Sparrow

So, that'll be the night of the new Moon then?

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

And ... her first name is "Luna."

"Luna Moon" ??? tell me you're joking...

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Originally Posted by pshrynk

Well, that's a lot less obscene feeling, then.

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07-25-2008, 09:07 PM	#31
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	Huh? No power outages here, just busy with work, kids, parental tech support, and a brother who keeps needing advice on the stats for his dissertation. Which then his adviser doesn't like-- the adviser wants simpler stats. Silly me. Just because the data are interdependent I though we could use a test that actually took advantage of that feature for increased power. Adviser just wants a simple comparison of means with margin of error. Which I don't think is appropriate with categorical data, but hey, I'm not on the dissertation committee. Oh, wait, this isn't the rant thread, is it? Thank you to everyone who expressed concern about the wild weather we're having up here. No excitement in my immediate vicinity, but a few miles west of here there was quite the swath of devastation. Work was exciting yesterday. Sirens kept going off and loudspeakers were telling us that there was severe weather and we should "seek shelter immediately." So what do the oversized monkeys I work with do? Go out and stare at the sky. Heh. Now, what was this about a t-shirt you were wanting? Or was it a picture of Queen Z fast-forwarded to 80+ years with a ratty unwashed shirt you were after? I don't normally take commissions of that type....

07-25-2008, 09:11 PM	#32
Spartacus2112 Evangelist Posts: 468 Karma: 1147 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lawn Giland Device: Kindle 3 Wifi	Pshrynk, Is this one of your neighbors or friends? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25854715

07-25-2008, 09:47 PM	#34
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	Well, if you want to group the data by participants, it would be heteroscedastic, I suppose, but I don't know how meaningful that would be given his experimental design. Such as it is. The point being that you can only generate a mean by grouping by participants, but that wasn't the point of his study, and he shouldn't be trying to generate any kind of mean from what are, simply, categorical data.

07-26-2008, 08:51 AM	#37
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,600 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	Jeebers, last week it was January, this week, hopefully it'll be more like July should be...

07-26-2008, 09:48 AM	#39
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,600 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	I hope that wasn't implying Pshrynk is "cranky"...

07-26-2008, 12:52 PM	#40
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	For those of you who were interested, the answer was, "Forty two."

07-26-2008, 01:52 PM	#44
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	Well, that's a lot less obscene feeling, then.

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