Hisense A5C, A5 Pro CC, color e-ink phones - Page 8

mdp · 07-14-2020, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tracey1

I will look into the latter possibility although I would be positively surprisrd if local phone shops provide such a service

To find a repairs shop owned by first class electronics enthusiast, which also thought it was a good idea (understatement) to have a plotter, shapes database and matte film, is what happened to me - days after my usual resellers revealed having started selling s**t instead of the excellence they sold before.

I do not know what your local reality is - you have to look for the right ones. Unless you are in the Gobi, I would be surprised if you cannot find anything.

tracey1 · 07-14-2020, 10:08 PM

Just a quick note. 2 months ago, Goodereader wrote in an article that Hisense is looking at the possibility of an update that would grant all of their phones that run on Android 9.0 and up Google play functionality but it would take "6 months of testing".

Crossing my fingers I guess.

pdurrant · 07-15-2020, 03:03 AM

I wouldn't place any trust in a Goodereader article.

mdp · 07-15-2020, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie - uk

Colour [...] doesn't seem to interfere with text display

Would you decide to take a few pictures, as I dared asking at post #99 in this thead, maybe it would be nice to see the difference between the four "Clear", "Balanced", "Smooth" and "Speed" display modes.

To see the results in "Clear", supposing it is the best quality mode (like Greyscale Update in usual E-Ink waveforms), is the most important.

mdp · 07-15-2020, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdurrant

I wouldn't place any trust in a Goodereader article.

And they should get a camera with more definition and a good stabilizer.

Still about "Clear" vs "Balanced" vs "Smooth" vs "Speed", I took some pictures out of a video of theirs, at maximum resolution. I compared "Clear" and "Balanced" as the difference was already visible at that video quality. But the quality of the video shots is not good enough, very blurry, "ink-jet" - reliable like evaluating a photo from its printout on an old household inkjet. So the attached picture has little real value.

(And why do they call "ghosting" "staining"? When has this latter become part of the jargon?)

mdp · 07-15-2020, 08:42 AM

This is instead a satisfyingly clear picture (from a YT video from 红酒汤姆一世) of how the displayed content looks like.
Since the colour-tinted areas are very evident, the picture shows well how the 300-ish DPI E-Ink layer somoothly "subpixels" the 100-ish DPI filter.
But it does not yet answer those basic old question - how does text in colour look, at what resolution are images rendered, how do PDF renderings look etc.

EDIT:
<not that serious>
...and why not adding 红酒汤姆一世, for those who have no idea like I did not just an hour ago.
There the guy is, on the right. Just do not expect the real kaleido to have that contrast boost I added...
</not that serious>

norweger · 07-15-2020, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tracey1

Just a quick note. 2 months ago, Goodereader wrote in an article that Hisense is looking at the possibility of an update that would grant all of their phones that run on Android 9.0 and up Google play functionality but it would take "6 months of testing".

Crossing my fingers I guess.

It's my post that made the news. Kinda funny. Thing is a company that sells Hisense phones might (!) sell them with Google Play in six months. Might. And the reseller is vague on whether existing customers would get such an update, because telling the truth they'd have to say a loud and clear no. No updates for existing customers.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...7&postcount=52

charlie - uk · 07-15-2020, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdp

Would you decide to take a few pictures, as I dared asking at post #99 in this thead, maybe it would be nice to see the difference between the four "Clear", "Balanced", "Smooth" and "Speed" display modes.

To see the results in "Clear", supposing it is the best quality mode (like Greyscale Update in usual E-Ink waveforms), is the most important.

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mdp · 07-15-2020, 12:34 PM

Thank you!
First of all: I am in mobility now and I cannot assess quietly, but: I do not seem to notice a degradation in resolution in the presence of colour. The renderer to me (at this phase) looks smart enough. A reduction to 100-ish DPI should be very noticeable!

EDIT: I would say for example that some strings in colour (e.g. the white on dark cyan "Sign in" in one of the pictures) look more jagged than black ones, but I would not say there is such a 9x degradation out of a resolution loss... (The lower part of the pictures is just the upper contrasted).

jsp56 · 07-28-2020, 07:07 AM

Hi,

I wondered if you might know whether the setup that NHS doctors use for video calls with their patients works on the HiSense A5C or other e-ink phones?

I am thinking about buying one but I don't know whether the NHS setup requires google play store.

Thanks!

tracey1 · 07-28-2020, 08:18 PM

What about rooting to get google play access ?

jsp56 · 07-31-2020, 12:34 AM

Hi,

Thanks, yes I wondered about that. Does it work?

Thanks!

jsp56 · 07-31-2020, 02:49 AM

I Just looked and I see that the HiSense A5 Pro CC is available online now. I understand that that is the better one. If I could root that, it would be really good.

I just wondered because I am a patient volunteer in a GP surgery and one of my jobs is to give feedback on how systems are working, but I don't have a smartphone because I don't get on with LED light. It would be great if I could root an e-ink phone so I could start working with the new systems.

orebmur · 07-31-2020, 04:58 AM

For rooting related technical discussions the XDA Forum is probably the better place to look.

Using the forum search at forum.xda-developers.com/android following thread can be found:

forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/hisense-a5-pro-cc-how-to-root-unlock-t4109021

jsp56 · 07-31-2020, 05:28 AM

Thank you I will go and read it. My husband just found that there is an international version available already rooted that might do nicely for me. This is it:

https://www.cect-shop.com/en/hisense-a5.html

07-14-2020, 10:08 PM	#107
tracey1 Addict Posts: 221 Karma: 4500000 Join Date: Feb 2017 Device: none	Just a quick note. 2 months ago, Goodereader wrote in an article that Hisense is looking at the possibility of an update that would grant all of their phones that run on Android 9.0 and up Google play functionality but it would take "6 months of testing". Crossing my fingers I guess. Last edited by tracey1; 07-14-2020 at 10:18 PM.

07-15-2020, 08:42 AM	#111
mdp Wizard Posts: 1,481 Karma: 9010563 Join Date: Jul 2013 Device: none	This is instead a satisfyingly clear picture (from a YT video from 红酒汤姆一世) of how the displayed content looks like. Since the colour-tinted areas are very evident, the picture shows well how the 300-ish DPI E-Ink layer somoothly "subpixels" the 100-ish DPI filter. But it does not yet answer those basic old question - how does text in colour look, at what resolution are images rendered, how do PDF renderings look etc. EDIT: <not that serious> ...and why not adding 红酒汤姆一世, for those who have no idea like I did not just an hour ago. There the guy is, on the right. Just do not expect the real kaleido to have that contrast boost I added... </not that serious> Attached Thumbnails Last edited by mdp; 07-15-2020 at 09:08 AM.

07-15-2020, 12:34 PM	#114
mdp Wizard Posts: 1,481 Karma: 9010563 Join Date: Jul 2013 Device: none	Thank you! First of all: I am in mobility now and I cannot assess quietly, but: I do not seem to notice a degradation in resolution in the presence of colour. The renderer to me (at this phase) looks smart enough. A reduction to 100-ish DPI should be very noticeable! EDIT: I would say for example that some strings in colour (e.g. the white on dark cyan "Sign in" in one of the pictures) look more jagged than black ones, but I would not say there is such a 9x degradation out of a resolution loss... (The lower part of the pictures is just the upper contrasted). Attached Thumbnails Last edited by mdp; 07-15-2020 at 04:49 PM.

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07-15-2020, 03:03 AM	#108
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 71,511 Karma: 306214458 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Voyage	I wouldn't place any trust in a Goodereader article.

07-28-2020, 07:07 AM	#115
jsp56 Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2020 Device: none	Hi, I wondered if you might know whether the setup that NHS doctors use for video calls with their patients works on the HiSense A5C or other e-ink phones? I am thinking about buying one but I don't know whether the NHS setup requires google play store. Thanks!

07-28-2020, 08:18 PM	#116
tracey1 Addict Posts: 221 Karma: 4500000 Join Date: Feb 2017 Device: none	What about rooting to get google play access ?

07-31-2020, 12:34 AM	#117
jsp56 Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2020 Device: none	Hi, Thanks, yes I wondered about that. Does it work? Thanks!

07-31-2020, 02:49 AM	#118
jsp56 Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2020 Device: none	I Just looked and I see that the HiSense A5 Pro CC is available online now. I understand that that is the better one. If I could root that, it would be really good. I just wondered because I am a patient volunteer in a GP surgery and one of my jobs is to give feedback on how systems are working, but I don't have a smartphone because I don't get on with LED light. It would be great if I could root an e-ink phone so I could start working with the new systems.

07-31-2020, 04:58 AM	#119
orebmur Veteran Linux user Posts: 144 Karma: 678910 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Barcelona/Spain Device: Boyue Likebook Note & Mimas, Hisense A5, hopefully soon a PineNote	For rooting related technical discussions the XDA Forum is probably the better place to look. Using the forum search at forum.xda-developers.com/android following thread can be found: forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/hisense-a5-pro-cc-how-to-root-unlock-t4109021

07-31-2020, 05:28 AM	#120
jsp56 Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2020 Device: none	Thank you I will go and read it. My husband just found that there is an international version available already rooted that might do nicely for me. This is it: https://www.cect-shop.com/en/hisense-a5.html

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