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It's a lot like DRM discussions: the suppliers have their reasons and while some object vehemently, the paying customers by and large don't care. And if their choices don't cost them measurable losses, the supplier will stick with their decision. The only significant negative I've seen companies experience from their quest for thinness is the class action lawsuit over Apple's "butterfly" keyboard. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN1Y629A Consumers seem quite comfortable with the trade-off. |
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12-05-2019, 11:33 PM | #47 |
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Such phones don't have to be replaced when the battery wears down. Most, if not all, have replaceable batteries and is an easy job for a repair center. Generally they are designed so that the front panel comes off with the adhesive being softened, the panel is then glued down again after battery replacement.
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Conversely, I just replaced my work phone last week because the battery life had become so poor it required charging multiple times per day, and I replaced my last tablet because the battery had deteriorated to the point that it was overheating the device and shutting it down. If both had replaceable batteries, I would still have them.
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Compare this to Samsung trying to remove the SD card slot from their phones, and having to row back from that decision based on customer demand. Replaceable batteries and 3.5mm jacks are clearly not seen as important to the general user base, unlike SD cards. We both disagree, you on the battery front and me on the 3.5mm jack front, but we are in the minority. |
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There is currently a music player that has both an micro SD lot and uses a AAA replaceable battery.
Low end MP3 and WAV only, but $23 USD. https://www.amazon.com/AGPTEK-Suppor...5630717&sr=8-3 |
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$9 on alibaba (bulk, wholesale price).
edit. looked a little harder and found $2.20 @ 5,000 pcs Last edited by Junket; 12-06-2019 at 06:41 AM. |
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I still think it's weird. Walkie Talkies had hot swap batteries. Now we have to use an external battery pack. Through what sleight of hand did that happen? Somewhere along the line we switched to glued in batteries. If I have a choice I'd choose the hot swappable battery... but I don't.
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I don't mind having to take apart my readers to replace a battery, but so far, I haven't had to, even on my oldest Sony 350 readers, they still seem to hold a charge ok. But I agree there also, there should be a way to replace your battery on any device. It's just a marketing tactic to force you to buy a new phone or reader instead of just a $15 battery. |
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On the ereader front it has got to the stage around here that there have been so few new ones sold for so long now that it would be a surprise if there was to be much business to be conducted having anything whatsoever to do with any of them let alone replacing their batteries. Is pretty much all phones, tablets, and to a lesser extent pbooks I see being used now, no doubt there are still some ereaders in use but I don't recall seeing anyone using one for a long time. |
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Unlike phones, eink readers don't typically get replaced until they break. And over time they have been getting better and more reliable than early models. The same thing has been happening with tablets: they do what they need to do as well as they ever did so sales have leveled off and are declining slowly. People have little reason to upgrade until the hardware fails, which isn't often. It not that less people are using them but that the market is close to saturation. Check this: https://www.zdnet.com/article/peak-i...come-and-gone/ Apple got past the "peak ipad" by introducing the larger ipad pro and lowering the price of the smaller models. Amazon and Kobo don't really have that option since the market for bigger readers is tiny so their solution has been to upgrade the low end and add a premium model. It boosts their bottom line but ereaders are single function devices so premium models don't offer much in the way of compelling upsell attraction. So yes, eink sales are declining but the user base is probably still growing. Just slower. Understandable given the durability of the gadgets and the decline of BPH ebook sales because of the pricing. As for seeing users out in the wild, don't forget ereaders tend to be used for entertainment reading. At home. Phones when used for reading are used for opportunistic reading, here and there, mostly outside the house. Tablets can be used for more than reading so while ereaders are sold for reading, tablets are bought for many different uses. Both will outsell ereaders but don't necessarily displace them. Many people have both, or all three. Last edited by fjtorres; 12-06-2019 at 07:38 PM. |
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I made sure to buy Samsungs that had replaceable batteries, but Samsung isn't making any new phones with replaceable batteries which is a shame. I will keep these until they die, then consider what I get next. So long as they keep making the batteries for my Samsung Note 2, Grand Prime, & S5 I'll keep buying the batteries and replacing them.
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