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KevinH · 12-21-2017, 03:17 PM

FYI, I and many many others regularly create epub3 ebooks that 100% pass epubcheck. So I am not sure what is going on here. If all epub3 features are tagged as errors, then perhpas you do not have the correct version tag in the opf to indicate this is an epub3 versus an epub2.

Akasashasha · 12-21-2017, 03:44 PM

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perhpas you do not have the correct version tag in the opf to indicate this is an epub3

ok, can you tell me more so I have an idea what to look for ? maybe with a concrete example ? feel a bit lost ...

thanks a lot

KevinH · 12-21-2017, 04:03 PM

If in a recent version of Sigil, it will tell you if your epub is an epub3 or epub2 by looking at the main gui Window name.

The definitive way is to look at the opf file. The content.opf file has an opf package tag that has a version attribute that determines the version of the epub:

For example, here is the opening package tag for a typical epub3 content.opf.

Code:

<package xmlns="http://www.idpf.org/2007/opf" version="3.0" xml:lang="en" unique-identifier="uid" prefix="rendition: http://www.idpf.org/vocab/rendition/# cc: http://creativecommons.org/ns#">

Notice the version="3.0"

odamizu · 12-21-2017, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Akasashasha

... @odamizu: I tried many different things ... adding some fake ol with a fake link as you suggested, etc ... nothing seems to work ... still stuck in here ...

You misunderstood. A fake link will not validate. I wrote "filename.xhtml" as an example only. You need a real link in order to validate, but you can use any text you want.

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Originally Posted by Akasashasha

... answer so far from all of you seems to be that standard is still to epub 2

Actually, no. Only one person is pushing you to regress to epub2. Everyone else is trying to help you create a valid epub3.

I am slowly transitioning my library to epub3, and so far everything validates.

BetterRed · 12-21-2017, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BetterRed

I have what I regard as an ugly way around this issue - so I'd also be interested in a more elegant approach.

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Originally Posted by odamizu

What is your ugly workaround?

[ . . . ]

(Or is that your ugly workaround, BR?

)

Yeah, 'cept I put a dot where you have a dash.

I thought hoped there might be an explicit way to declare 'this is toc-less' book.

BR

odamizu · 12-21-2017, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BetterRed

Yeah, 'cept I put a dot where you have a dash.

I thought hoped there might be an explicit way to declare 'this is toc-less' book.

BR

Haha! A dot is better; smaller than a dash

Not that I ever do this. All my books have TOCs.

I also tested this with a non-breaking space — which I suspect you would have tried, too — but that wouldn't validate.

Hitch · 12-21-2017, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinH

FYI, I and many many others regularly create epub3 ebooks that 100% pass epubcheck. So I am not sure what is going on here. If all epub3 features are tagged as errors, then perhpas you do not have the correct version tag in the opf to indicate this is an epub3 versus an epub2.

Kevin:

Do we have reason to believe that SW now accepts ePUB3? We've made some FXL ePUBs that, as far as I know, uploaded over there, but I don't remember if they were ePUB2 or 3. Nonetheless, for at least the last few years, every time an ePUB (2) was uploaded there, it tanked with alleged intake (ePUBcheck) errors. They had to be manually processed.

So, it could be an ePUB3.0 thing; or it could be just the usual SW intake errors around ePUBs. Just a thought.

Hitch

KevinH · 12-21-2017, 10:43 PM

I really have no idea about SW itself. That is why I asked him if epubcheck on his epub passed or not and if it gave the same error message.

The op said that epubcheck failed for every epub3 feature. I tried to point out this must be because of a coding error as valid epub3s can and do pass epubcheck

Hitch · 12-22-2017, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinH

I really have no idea about SW itself. That is why I asked him if epubcheck on his epub passed or not and if it gave the same error message.

The op said that epubcheck failed for every epub3 feature. I tried to point out this must be because of a coding error as valid epub3s can and do pass epubcheck

As I mentioned, SW has had issues with intake on ePUBs for dog's years; AFAIK, ePUBs have not passed intake there, ever, not automatically. I have the direct email addresses of several folks over there, due to this exact issue. Cheerfully send a client off, ~~time passes~~ and then, I get an email telling me that "there's something wrong with your ePUB, it's failing at SW." {sigh}.

So, yes, I agree, I'd ePUBcheck it first, independently of SW.

Hitch

Akasashasha · 12-22-2017, 03:41 AM

Dears

just received an answer from Smashwords, and actually, proud to say, I was right !

Many epub 3 functionalities are not accepted by Smashwords (this includes footnotes pop up, which was one of the main thing rejected in my ebooks) ...

So their standard is not real epub 3 but something like epub 2.5 (I know it doesn't exist, but well ... )

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If in a recent version of Sigil, it will tell you if your epub is an epub3 or epub2 by looking at the main gui Window name.

Yes, I'm using the latest update of Sigil, always, and by default using the epub 3 option which result in properly tagged xhtml files.

@KevinH: you wrote

Code:

<package xmlns="http://www.idpf.org/2007/opf" version="3.0" xml:lang="en" unique-identifier="uid" prefix="rendition: http://www.idpf.org/vocab/rendition/# cc: http://creativecommons.org/ns#">

What I have for the content.opf is a bit different but I don't see any mistake either in your or in my version of the code, can you please check it ?

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<package version="3.0" unique-identifier="BookId" xmlns="http://www.idpf.org/2007/opf">

Akasashasha · 12-22-2017, 03:47 AM

and here is what I have for my toc.ncx

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<package prefix="rendition: http://www.idpf.org/vocab/rendition/# cc: http://creativecommons.org/ns#" unique-identifier="uid" version="3.0" xml:lang="en" xmlns="http://www.idpf.org/2007/opf">

Akasashasha · 12-22-2017, 08:17 AM

Hi guys

I'm sooo sorry, I just re-re-re checked my ebooks and discover that 2 of them (which were the main problem) where tagged as epub2 but were intended to be epub 3 ... so mostly my fault

I corrected that and now this 2 ebooks pass the epub validator successfully ... but still, according to Smashword standard, not sure they make it to their premium store as some epub3 tricks are not welcome on their website (not criticising them here, they are doing a great job ... just sharing info).

Thanks everyone, I learned a lot in the process.

Happy Christmas !

12-21-2017, 04:03 PM	#18
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,635 Karma: 5433388 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	If in a recent version of Sigil, it will tell you if your epub is an epub3 or epub2 by looking at the main gui Window name. The definitive way is to look at the opf file. The content.opf file has an opf package tag that has a version attribute that determines the version of the epub: For example, here is the opening package tag for a typical epub3 content.opf. Code: <package xmlns="http://www.idpf.org/2007/opf" version="3.0" xml:lang="en" unique-identifier="uid" prefix="rendition: http://www.idpf.org/vocab/rendition/# cc: http://creativecommons.org/ns#"> Notice the version="3.0"

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12-21-2017, 03:17 PM	#16
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,635 Karma: 5433388 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	FYI, I and many many others regularly create epub3 ebooks that 100% pass epubcheck. So I am not sure what is going on here. If all epub3 features are tagged as errors, then perhpas you do not have the correct version tag in the opf to indicate this is an epub3 versus an epub2.

12-21-2017, 10:43 PM	#23
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,635 Karma: 5433388 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	I really have no idea about SW itself. That is why I asked him if epubcheck on his epub passed or not and if it gave the same error message. The op said that epubcheck failed for every epub3 feature. I tried to point out this must be because of a coding error as valid epub3s can and do pass epubcheck

12-22-2017, 08:17 AM	#27
Akasashasha Member Posts: 11 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2017 Device: all	Hi guys I'm sooo sorry, I just re-re-re checked my ebooks and discover that 2 of them (which were the main problem) where tagged as epub2 but were intended to be epub 3 ... so mostly my fault I corrected that and now this 2 ebooks pass the epub validator successfully ... but still, according to Smashword standard, not sure they make it to their premium store as some epub3 tricks are not welcome on their website (not criticising them here, they are doing a great job ... just sharing info). Thanks everyone, I learned a lot in the process. Happy Christmas !