11-15-2015, 07:03 AM | #1 | |
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11-15-2015, 07:11 AM | #2 | |
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Also, this was was posted by another moderator:
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11-15-2015, 07:36 AM | #3 | ||
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I'm sorry I can't be clearer and my answer illustrates that interpretations can vary, so keep that in mind. In short, this is a Justice Potter Stewart response. |
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I believe the intent is to have no discussion at all on removing DRM from content that is "lent" as opposed to "purchased".
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11-15-2015, 07:52 AM | #5 |
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Exactly! If someone doesn't "own" the book, then they have no right to tamper with it. If the book is incompatible with their devices, then it's up to them to get a device that's compatible with the book.
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11-15-2015, 08:01 AM | #6 |
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Thank you for the clarifications.
One of the warnings is in this thread: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ry#post3184320 It looks to me like there is more discussion after the moderator post, and nothing was done? There is also this thread (starting with post 230): https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ibrary&page=17 I reported the above thread (I think it was this thread) and nothing was done, so I was confused as to what is acceptable (which is why I started this thread). Maybe another bullet item could be added in the guidelines about DRM and library books? |
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The second thread does seem to have one comment, but it was contradicted and the discussion didn't seem to encourage the attempt. As for updating the guidelines. No, we can't cover every possible instance in the guidelines. Not enough people read them as it is, and if we make then even longer it's not going to help. I would have thought is was fairly obvious that removing DRM from library books is not acceptable. |
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11-15-2015, 10:07 AM | #10 | |
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But since no action was taken, my thinking was clearly wrong, so in the future I will not report such threads/posts. |
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11-15-2015, 10:09 AM | #11 |
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It is impossible for guidelines to cover all eventualities explicitly. (The hint is in the name: guidelines.)
It is even more impossible for a moderator notice, quite possibly written in a few minutes, to be so clear, explicit and easy to understand that no-one will misunderstand it. Some willingness to interpret the intent of the guidelines and moderator notices is required, as in any communication between people. |
11-15-2015, 10:43 AM | #12 |
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11-15-2015, 03:15 PM | #13 |
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Is it acceptable by MR to post intentional false or mis-information? I'm hoping to get an official MR moderator ruling, but opinions are welcome.
I personally wouldn't do it, but from what I've seen, IMO, false/mis-information is acceptable as long as it is promoting MR guidelines. |
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Maybe it doesn't work anymore, I thought it does work. (For obvious reasons I haven't checked to see. ) I could drop a line to apprenticeharper that that code needs to be checked to see if it still works, I guess. Given that people still post to Alf's blog complaining that they can't illegally steal library ebooks, it would *seem* to work... Anyway, as far as I know telling a falsehood is not against the forum guidelines. I should hope that a white lie isn't going to incur the wrath of the moderators. EDIT: As issybird says in the post below, not an ethical or effective strategy. Even if that had been my intent, I don't know whether it should be deserving of moderator wrath though. Just call out the falsehood. Of course, that might be encouraging piracy! Last edited by eschwartz; 11-15-2015 at 03:46 PM. |
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Unless you know for sure, don't assume something is deliberately false. But as far as I'm concerned, if someone is wrong, you can call him on it, so long as you don't use "attack" words or question motivations. A simple statement to the extent that something is incorrect should suffice. MR is really and truly not Big Brother. I don't think disinformation is an ethical or effective strategy. |
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