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Old 07-30-2013, 06:25 PM   #16
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I hate that carousel! Luckily, it's easily remedied without rooting by adding a launcher.
True but while adding a launcher does help, the behavior of tapping the "home" soft key returning to the carousel becomes old very quickly.
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Old 07-30-2013, 06:51 PM   #17
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That's why I switched from my kindle fire hd to nook hd & hd+. Sick of the carousel. I could deal with it until they broke the ability to add custom wallpaper to a launcher. I have come to realize I also really like the physical home button, as well as the SD card slot. So, no interest here in the latest and greatest Kindle Fire. We'll keep the HD7.
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:16 PM   #18
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Mmm, Jelly Bean 4.2.2. Nice! Probably September announcement and November release again.
You can already have that plus Google Play by installing N2Aos for the Kindle Fire.
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Old 07-30-2013, 11:09 PM   #19
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I want the Google apps. . .

I pretty much run my life with them, if it won't run them, it's no sale for me. I know, Google is evil, but it's an evil I can live with.
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Old 07-31-2013, 12:03 AM   #20
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Amazon is evil, Google is evil, and Samsung is evil; but Apple is the mostest eviler of them all
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Old 07-31-2013, 01:48 AM   #21
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While the new Fire HD has a higher end processor, it's still lacking key features the Nexus 7 has:

Fire HD 7.2 vs Nexus 7.2
  • CPU: Snapdragon 800 vs Snapdragon S4 Pro
  • Speed: 2.0 GHz vs 1.5 GHz
  • GPU: Adreno 330 vs Adreno 320
  • OS: Android 4.2.2 vs Android 4.3
  • Apps: Amazon vs Google Play
  • GPS: no vs yes
  • Compass: no vs yes
  • Rear Cam: no vs 5MP
Just a slight correction. I don't remember all the technical details (you can look those up on anandtech if you want), but for all intents and purposes the Nexus 7 ships with a Snapdragon 600.

The reason Qualcomm calls it an S4 pro is purely arbitrary, and is related to its clockspeed. At 1.7Ghz it's a Snapdragon 600. Drop it to 1.5, and it becomes an S4 Pro. Despite the fact that the hardware is entirely the same.
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Old 07-31-2013, 03:50 AM   #22
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While the new Fire HD has a higher end processor, it's still lacking key features the Nexus 7 has:

Fire HD 7.2 vs Nexus 7.2
  • CPU: Snapdragon 800 vs Snapdragon S4 Pro
  • Speed: 2.0 GHz vs 1.5 GHz
  • GPU: Adreno 330 vs Adreno 320
  • OS: Android 4.2.2 vs Android 4.3
  • Apps: Amazon vs Google Play
  • GPS: no vs yes
  • Compass: no vs yes
  • Rear Cam: no vs 5MP
There is something very fishy about the "quoted" K-Fire specifications. The SnapDragon 800 SOC contains a GPS block, so why does the KF not have it listed. Maybe those random specs were just inserted into the rumor mill in an attempt to diminish enthusiasm for the new Nexus 7??????

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Old 07-31-2013, 04:14 AM   #23
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Amazon is evil, Google is evil, and Samsung is evil; but Apple is the mostest eviler of them all
You are amazingly willing to spend a lot of your hard earned bananas on all this evil.
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Old 07-31-2013, 05:17 AM   #24
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You are amazingly willing to spend a lot of your hard earned bananas on all this evil.
I've been seduced by the dark side. The allure of technology is too hard to resist
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You just paraphrased Lord Acton; "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely".
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:10 AM   #26
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There is something very fishy about the "quoted" K-Fire specifications. The SnapDragon 800 SOC contains a GPS block, so why does the KF not have it listed. Maybe those random specs were just inserted into the rumor mill in an attempt to diminish enthusiasm for the new Nexus 7??????

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And the original Nook tablet has a bluetooth circuit, but has no bluetooth support out of the box.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:36 AM   #27
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Just a slight correction. I don't remember all the technical details (you can look those up on anandtech if you want), but for all intents and purposes the Nexus 7 ships with a Snapdragon 600.
That's incorrect. The S4 Pro is based on the Krait-200 Core, whereas the 600 is based on the Krait-300 core.

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Old 07-31-2013, 05:33 PM   #28
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That's incorrect. The S4 Pro is based on the Krait-200 Core, whereas the 600 is based on the Krait-300 core.
Nope, he's right. See here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7176/n...-mini-review/4

For the new Nexus 7 they decided to call it an S4 Pro but it's more like a more like a lower-binned or underclocked Snapdragon 600.

They "bin" processors when they don't quite meet the spec but still want to use the silicon. AMD/Intel has done this for ages (dual-core chips with 2 more cores enable-able with extra voltage, CPUs with cache disabled, etc).
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Old 07-31-2013, 05:45 PM   #29
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And I guess the fact that the N7 2013 was just announced has nothing to do with these leaks... Cynic me, you say?
The leaks actually started a few weeks ago before the Google announcement. I wrote a post in the Kindle Fire forum about some of the specs back on July 9th.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=217672
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Oh how the mighty have fallen!

I thought that Microsoft was the evilest evil of all evils ...
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