[Leak/Rumour] Windows Store to sell ebooks (again)?

tomsem · 01-17-2017, 06:05 PM

Speculation is that the addition of ePub support to Edge browser (still only in preview build I think?) has paved the way for this.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/31585...le-ebooks.html

http://www.techradar.com/news/window...-leak-suggests

Wonder if Edge offers (or will offer) offline mode for this content (as Kindle Cloud Reader does). I am not willing to install preview build of Windows 10 to find out, however. I just removed preview build from my Windows 10 Phone as half the apps I wanted to use stopped working...

AnemicOak · 01-17-2017, 06:15 PM

It would have to support some kind of DRM to get many publishers on board so unless the ePub support is based around Adobe's RMSDK we're likely looking at another new DRM scheme (possibly something based around LIT's DRM?).

tomsem · 01-17-2017, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

It would have to support some kind of DRM to get many publishers on board so unless the ePub support is based around Adobe's RMSDK we're likely looking at another new DRM scheme (possibly something based around LIT's DRM?).

They don't need to use DRM unless they offer a 'download ePub' option. If you are just reading it in a browser, or in some app derived from that, there's no 'file' as such. E.g. Google Play Books app does not open or download ePub files. Google uses Adobe DRM only if you request file download, and not all books you buy have that option. And you also have B&N, which does not have an official 'download ePub' option at all any more. Yet apparently some people still buy ebooks from them.

AnemicOak · 01-17-2017, 09:10 PM

I believe both Google & B&N still use some sort of DRM in their apps and don't rely on the app in and of itself to be enough to "protect" the books, but you're correct I was more thinking of the book being downloaded.

kennyc · 01-18-2017, 07:16 AM

http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/18/14...10-ebook-store

Ravensknight · 01-18-2017, 12:32 PM

Wonder how long it will last before they fold and quietly bury it?

ZodWallop · 01-18-2017, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravensknight

Wonder how long it will last before they fold and quietly bury it?

If the ePubs can be downloaded and Alfed, I'd be happy to buy eBooks from Microsoft. Could be a real boon in light of the direction Amazon appear to be taking.

Ravensknight · 01-18-2017, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

If the ePubs can be downloaded and Alfed, I'd be happy to buy eBooks from Microsoft. Could be a real boon in light of the direction Amazon appear to be taking.

My problem is that I believe your "if" is an impossibility. I would really love to be wrong in this case though, because I'm not really liking where the 'Zon is going either.

Alohamora · 01-18-2017, 02:45 PM

If they limit it to Windows 10, it's no use to me.

ZodWallop · 01-18-2017, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravensknight

My problem is that I believe your "if" is an impossibility. I would really love to be wrong in this case though, because I'm not really liking where the 'Zon is going either.

Yeah, you're probably right. But I'm hoping.

Maybe there will be some simple work around. The ePubs are displayed in Edge. Edge can use extensions. Some extension is written to read the code and create a downloaded ePub. My complete ignorance of coding likely makes this naively optimistic...

ZodWallop · 01-18-2017, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alohamora

If they limit it to Windows 10, it's no use to me.

Well, it's specifically for the Edge browser which is a Windows 10 exclusive, so...

barryem · 01-19-2017, 05:39 PM

You guys may be right about the direction Amazon is taking with respect to their new Kindle for PC updates but I think it's too soon to call it a direction. I wonder how long it'll take Alf to be able to deal with KFX.

I do have a Windows 10 phone which I only use for audio files, not as a phone, so if the new MS books works on that it might be a bit useful to me. But not as a regular way to read. It might be handy as a second device to keep handy with reference material while I'm reading on my Kindle or regular phone.

Barry

Barty · 01-19-2017, 09:56 PM

Since MS has come up with some interesting hardware of late, I'd be interested in a MS dedicated e-reader.

cgsmom · 01-21-2017, 09:36 AM

I don't know that I would jump to Microsoft right away. They left me high and dry with ebooks before. That was my first experience with drm removal. I did manage to liberate my books, but it left some hard feelings.

DNSB · 01-22-2017, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgsmom

I don't know that I would jump to Microsoft right away. They left me high and dry with ebooks before. That was my first experience with drm removal. I did manage to liberate my books, but it left some hard feelings.

ConvertLIT was a lifesaver there.

edit: Getting back to the original topic, looking at the ebook sales/reading with Edge, looks like an online only experience in build 15014.

01-17-2017, 06:05 PM	#1
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,464 Karma: 25996225 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	[Leak/Rumour] Windows Store to sell ebooks (again)? Speculation is that the addition of ePub support to Edge browser (still only in preview build I think?) has paved the way for this. http://www.pcworld.com/article/31585...le-ebooks.html http://www.techradar.com/news/window...-leak-suggests Wonder if Edge offers (or will offer) offline mode for this content (as Kindle Cloud Reader does). I am not willing to install preview build of Windows 10 to find out, however. I just removed preview build from my Windows 10 Phone as half the apps I wanted to use stopped working...

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01-17-2017, 06:15 PM	#2
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	It would have to support some kind of DRM to get many publishers on board so unless the ePub support is based around Adobe's RMSDK we're likely looking at another new DRM scheme (possibly something based around LIT's DRM?).

01-17-2017, 09:10 PM	#4
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	I believe both Google & B&N still use some sort of DRM in their apps and don't rely on the app in and of itself to be enough to "protect" the books, but you're correct I was more thinking of the book being downloaded.

01-18-2017, 07:16 AM	#5
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,872 Karma: 118716293 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/18/14...10-ebook-store

01-18-2017, 12:32 PM	#6
Ravensknight Serpent Rider Posts: 1,123 Karma: 10219804 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: Sony 350; Nook STR; Oasis	Wonder how long it will last before they fold and quietly bury it?

01-18-2017, 02:45 PM	#9
Alohamora Evangelist Posts: 446 Karma: 8897438 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA Device: Android phone, Fire tablet, ios phone	If they limit it to Windows 10, it's no use to me.

01-19-2017, 05:39 PM	#12
barryem Wizard Posts: 2,459 Karma: 68781975 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arkansas Device: Paperwhite 4	You guys may be right about the direction Amazon is taking with respect to their new Kindle for PC updates but I think it's too soon to call it a direction. I wonder how long it'll take Alf to be able to deal with KFX. I do have a Windows 10 phone which I only use for audio files, not as a phone, so if the new MS books works on that it might be a bit useful to me. But not as a regular way to read. It might be handy as a second device to keep handy with reference material while I'm reading on my Kindle or regular phone. Barry

01-19-2017, 09:56 PM	#13
Barty doofus Posts: 2,517 Karma: 13036221 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kindle Voyage	Since MS has come up with some interesting hardware of late, I'd be interested in a MS dedicated e-reader.

01-21-2017, 09:36 AM	#14
cgsmom Addict Posts: 220 Karma: 1828511 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: USA Device: Nook GL4+, Nook GL4e, Kindle Oasis 3, Kindle PW4, iPhone 14	I don't know that I would jump to Microsoft right away. They left me high and dry with ebooks before. That was my first experience with drm removal. I did manage to liberate my books, but it left some hard feelings.