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View Poll Results: What is your preferred font size in eBooks? | |||
smaller than 10pt | 7 | 14.89% | |
10pt | 12 | 25.53% | |
11pt | 5 | 10.64% | |
12pt | 18 | 38.30% | |
14pt | 11 | 23.40% | |
16pt | 1 | 2.13% | |
18pt | 1 | 2.13% | |
larger than 18pt | 3 | 6.38% | |
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05-17-2009, 07:44 PM | #1 |
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Preferred Font Size in eBooks
What is your preferred font size?
If a publisher releases eBooks as PDF files (that use the proper 4.9"x6.9" paper size), what font sizes should those files use? (My assumption being that multiple files should be made available to provide the eBook in multiple font sizes.) |
05-18-2009, 03:27 AM | #2 | |
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It depends. If I'm reading in bed without my glasses on*, I like a very small font - 7pt, say. If I'm reading in normal light with glasses, I like something around 12pt. If I'm in low-light levels, 18pt is comfortable.
That's why I use Mobipocket ebooks - so I can change the font size at will. The problem with PDF for me is not that it's often set in A4/US Letter page size, but that it is in a fixed layout and font size. Quote:
*I'm short-sighted (myopic), so without my glasses I need to have the ebook less than 15cm away. The one advantage to being short-sighted. I don't need reading glasses in bed :-). |
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05-18-2009, 03:48 AM | #3 |
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For me the answer is "don't use PDF". Use a format such as Mobi, which allows the reader to determine what font size to use.
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05-18-2009, 05:13 AM | #4 |
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I like small fonts, in the Cybook I use the 3rd smaller font, In the PDFs I create I use 9pt.
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05-18-2009, 10:06 AM | #5 | |
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In other words, though correct me if I am wrong, the choice seems to be between professionally typeset eBooks and eBooks with resizable fonts. I get the impression that many people prefer the convenience of the latter at the expense of the former (assuming the results are not too atrocious). This makes me think that the best solution would be if multiple PDF files (one for each font size) could be encased in a single one, letting the reader choose which they want to view. Short of that though, you really don't think, Harry, that PDF files provided in multiple font sizes could address the same problem almost as well? |
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05-18-2009, 10:09 AM | #6 |
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Do multiple font size PDFs, MobiPocket, and ePub files cover most everyone and every popular type of eBook reader?
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05-18-2009, 10:11 AM | #7 |
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We'll just forget PDF even exists.
But Mobipocket and ePub should cover most devices out there for at least one of the two formats. |
05-18-2009, 10:32 AM | #8 | |
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As to the comment about PDF... I find the swearing off of the only format that can recreate a document of the same quality as the dead-tree book... illogical. Not that I want to start any discussion on the topic. I see in the forums it is a well traveled subject. But personally, I cannot bring myself to start reading books that look like they were typeset in Microsoft Word... for me, that's a step backwards, and not what I paid in excess of $300 for. I will be sure to provide the standard Mobipocket and ePub formats though, as the demand for them is very clear. Is there another format, JSWolf that would be good to add, to save people from having to do their own conversions? |
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As to other formats, I would have to say LRF is one popular format to have. I know the 505 & 700 can handle ePub, but the 500 cannot. eReader would do for some as well. And the last format I would suggest is MS Reader. If you are doing this without DRM, then one thing I can suggest is make your ePub as good as you can and then give Calibre a try to convert the ePub into Mobipocket and MS Reader. That might give you good results that way and a lot easier converting. |
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05-18-2009, 10:43 AM | #10 |
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That's great advice, JSWolf, and I will take it gratefully.
Any chance you could take a gander at the PDF eBooks of Sun Tzu's The Art of War I posted in another thread, and let me know if you have any suggestions in addition to the ones you already stated? Try 11pt and 14pt size ones in particular, if you are willing to oblige me. Thanks, and thanks in advance if you can take the time! |
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i am not sure the exact size that i use on my kindle, it is the second smallest one which i think is somewhere around 11 pt.
i think that one of the advantages on ebooks is the resizeable fonts and (for the kindle at least) does not greatly effect formatting. yes it would be nice thing to resize .PDFs so they fit on my kindle but that is one of the properties of the format. what would be nice is if .PDFs had a way of being cleanly converted into .MOBI, .EPUB or some other format that is easier on devices with limited screen real estate. |
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(And while the change may not be discernible, chances are very good that if shown both the typographically poor and the typographically well prepared page, you would be able to intuitively tell which one is better.) It simply comes down to the fact that typesetting is not something that computational automation can get right. For any real world text of any meaningful length, it simply isn't possible without the aid of human judgment calls. Check out this file ( https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=22 ) for a simple enough demonstration of what PDF can do. It is made for the Sony PRS-505's (roughly) 9cm by 12cm screen. I am most curious to find out how it is on your kindle. (Am I correct in assuming it supports PDFs?) If you have a digital camera or a camera phone and are willing, I would also be grateful for some quick shots of it on your device. |
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unfortunately the kindle 2 does not natively support .PDF's. they can be used but only through conversion either using amazons service, a third party program (i use calibre), or savory. thats why i said it would be nice if .PDF's could be cleanly converted to another format.
having said that, i did check out "the art of war" and converted it using calibre into .MOBI. to me it seemed to turn out pretty well compared to the .PDF however there was some formating loss. you can see here that while it is converted there are some problems. but as far as resizing text i think that the kindle does a good job. when dealing with .PDF's it not text size its actually converting while keeping the formating that is the problem that you will run into |
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05-21-2009, 07:41 AM | #15 |
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Do you mean, "*not* worth", Harry? Either way, I think we are pretty much on the same page, even if our tastes differ on certain points.
Bannson, that looks less than delightful, but nowhere as horrible as I expected after a PDF conversion. What format does Kindle natively support, other than its own? Or can non-Kindle owners easily (i.e.: without payment or excessive registration) convert from Mobipocket into the Kindle's own format? - Ahi |
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