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Old 09-13-2019, 08:10 AM   #16
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Sorry, but my versions works an all the device i have in my scope, whereas the css alternative ios n ot working on any of my devices.

So i stick to my version. And for sure i will not add a font having small caps glyphs just because i would like to have it in one word. Not even a subsetted font.

The valid reason is just simple. It works. At least for me. Yours doen't. At least for me.

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Old 09-13-2019, 08:49 AM   #17
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Sorry, but my versions works an all the device i have in my scope, whereas the css alternative ios n ot working on any of my devices. [...]

The valid reason is just simple. It works. At least for me. Yours doen't. At least for me.
Remember, ebooks are more than purely visual, and people will be reading them in all different ways. Screen Readers + Text-to-Speech are just as important.

Lately, I've been reading most of my books using TTS while doing things around the house, and the stuttering on <small>caps makes sentences un-understandable.

If the smallcaps are purely visual (like dropcaps, first-word/first-line smallcaps, etc.), then it's okay if the device doesn't have a proper smallcaps font.

If there's some higher-level purpose (such as citations, abbreviations, emphasis, [...]), then perhaps we could discuss other solutions.
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Old 09-13-2019, 05:07 PM   #18
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All the methods and code examples in this conversation add all sorts of unnecessary html. Why aren't more people using the handy CSS pseudo-elements? Are there that many devices that do not support the pseudo-elements?

I just code for myself for the Kindle and Galaxy Tab. They both have no trouble supporting the fanciest options of dropcaps, scenebreaks, etc. In fact, I often have to strip out all that structural code in the first line of every chapter just to get the clean code I need to liven up my reading!
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Old 09-13-2019, 06:01 PM   #19
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It is more just than 'supporting'

Dropcaps were formatted for my Astak, render pretty close on mt Kobo but the fonts baseline (?) is placed 'wrong' on my K4 (It tends to run into other text.
People who format for many devices tent to 'avoid' and compromise their layout so there will be the fewest big issues. Pseudo classes are just asking for customer problems
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Conclusion: it is not fun to be a professional in the e-book world. I get your point. Even if a device supported pseudo-elements and advanced CSS properties, the particular differences in implementation might emerge in clumsy ways across a large range of devices. Yet, all that extra structural code also may lead to odd and clumsy differences over devices. Hack the hacks — the sad story of the flexible screen...

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Old 09-13-2019, 08:22 PM   #21
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Conclusion: it is not fun to be a professional in the e-book world. I get your point. Even if a device supported pseudo-elements and advanced CSS properties, the particular differences in implementation might emerge in clumsy ways across a large range of devices. Yet, all that extra structural code also may lead to odd and clumsy differences over devices. Hack the hacks — the sad story of the flexible screen...
Well, if pseudos work on your Kindle, you have a relatively "newer" device. They are absolutely not supported across the Kindleverse.

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