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Old 10-11-2009, 10:55 AM   #1
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Who is Bolon Yokte?

Only 1100 days (or so) to go! Head for the hills! If there are any left!

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Christian Prager (University of Bonn, Germany)

Bolon Yokte K’u: Maya conceptions of war, conflict, and the underworld.


The deity Bolon Yokte K’u is shown here to have had a consistent association
with underworld, conflict, and war from the beginning of the Classic period
into Colonial times. Bolon Yokte K’u provides not only an insight into the
Maya conceptions of conflict but is also helpful to see how the conceptions
were implemented by the elite. The authors demonstrate that the deity is a
recurrent theme in Classic period inscriptions, Postclassic codices and the
Books of Chilam Balam from the Colonial period. The variety of documents
allows them to apply a diachronic perspective that heightens the
understanding of the deity and that evinces variation over time. The
concomitant appearance of Bolon Yokte K’u in art and writing enables the
authors to identify the iconographic attributes of the deity. Several
monuments can be shown to depict elite persons dressed up as Bolon Yokte
K’u. The identification of Bolon Yokte K’u on the "Vase of the Seven Gods"
(K2796) underscores its importance as one of the gods that were present
during the creation of the present world.
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Here's a quick translation of the final passage of
Tortuguero Monument 6, recording the 2012 Bak'tun ending:

Tzuhtz-(a)j-oom u(y)-uxlajuun pik(ta) Chan Ajaw ux(-te') Uniiw. Uht-oom ?
Y-em(al)?? Bolon Yookte' K'uh ta ?.

"The Thirteenth 'Bak'tun" will be finished (on) Four Ajaw, the Third of Uniiw (K'ank'in). ? will occur.
(It will be) the descent(??) of the Nine Support? God(s) to the ?."

This is it. The term following uht-oom is the main puzzle, and largely effaced. The "descent" reference is highly tentative, too. The enigmatic deity Bolon Yookte' K'uh has been known for some time from many sources, and I suspect that he (or they) has some tangential relationship to the Principal Bird Deity, as well as war associations.

Interestingly, he is a protagonist in the deep time mythology of Palenque, as recorded on Palenaue's Temple XIV tablet. A long-lasting character who's still around somewhere waiting, I suppose.

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You know, apocalypse can mean enlightment. Which could be just what will happen. After all, after a calendar ends, there's another one. Don't Panic!
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I think the movie is going to be spectacular trash, and I'm looking forward to seeing it.



However, I'm wondering who died and made the Mayans boss of the Apocalypse? I'll stump for Juliette's "enlightenment" myself (I'm prone to rare bouts of delusional optimism).
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I think the movie is going to be spectacular trash, and I'm looking forward to seeing it.



However, I'm wondering who died and made the Mayans boss of the Apocalypse? I'll stump for Juliette's "enlightenment" myself (I'm prone to rare bouts of delusional optimism).
We're on the same tune lovely super-CGI scenes!
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You know, apocalypse can mean enlightment. Which could be just what will happen. After all, after a calendar ends, there's another one. Don't Panic!
The Born Again Christians would call it "The Millennium". They might not be too far off either.

But does that mean were in the 7 year reign of the Beast? And does that mean "O" is ...

NAW!!
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I think the movie is going to be spectacular trash, and I'm looking forward to seeing it.

However, I'm wondering who died and made the Mayans boss of the Apocalypse? I'll stump for Juliette's "enlightenment" myself (I'm prone to rare bouts of delusional optimism).
Oh yes! I love large scale CGI movies about thing gone horribly bad.

Too bad they usually manage to fark them up... Like "Day after Tomorrow"... horrible horrible, bad bad!
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The Born Again Christians would call it "The Millennium". They might not be too far off either.

But does that mean were in the 7 year reign of the Beast? And does that mean "O" is ...

NAW!!
Ow, I meant enlightment in a very peaceful, concrete and philosophical way
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Too bad they usually manage to fark them up... Like "Day after Tomorrow"... horrible horrible, bad bad!
At least it's not Armageddon- the 1998 movie although they messed up the part about using paper to insulate, you don't roll it (that's the technique to turn it into fuel for any stove!), you put it as it is around the body. Now this is a thing you can't do with an ereader
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At least it's not Armageddon- the 1998 movie although they messed up the part about using paper to insulate, you don't roll it (that's the technique to turn it into fuel for any stove!), you put it as it is around the body. Now this is a thing you can't do with an ereader
Armageddon... Oh wow, I had totally managed to shove any reference to that horrid piece of horsemanure of a movie into the deepest, darkest dungeons of what I refer to as my memory.

Thank you so much for dragging it screaming and kicking into the light again. I will need therapy now
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Armageddon... Oh wow, I had totally managed to shove any reference to that horrid piece of horsemanure of a movie into the deepest, darkest dungeons of what I refer to as my memory.

Thank you so much for dragging it screaming and kicking into the light again. I will need therapy now
It was awful, wasn't it? Plus it had all those ads that proposed it as the next best thing. OW.
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At the end of the movie you find out that Bolon Yokte is really Verbal Kint.
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At the end of the movie you find out that Bolon Yokte is really Verbal Kint.
At least warn us there's a spoiler coming up
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