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Old 03-06-2025, 04:17 PM   #796
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If you are transferring KFX format anyways, you might was well update K4PC to 2.4.0 (70904). The DeDRM plugin handles those books and people have reported that 1.39.x will not download newer books.
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Old 03-06-2025, 09:20 PM   #797
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Honestly at this point it does look like the only way to put books on non-wifi Kindles is to remove the DRM and sideload them via USB.

So if you want to buy your books from Amazon, then currently the easiest way is to get them via Kindle for PC as detailed in this thread (see Method 2); you will have to convert the KFX book to AZW before sending to your Kindle. Otherwise you can consider buying your books at Kobo (whose DRM is easy to strip) or from other retailers offering DRM-free books.
Im not the person you responded to but am in a similar position. I have been using a Kindle DXG for the last 11 years and find myself in the same boat sort of.

I downloaded all my books from over the years and am in the process of converting them but at this point am unwilling to buy anymore as Ive been reading that they are coming in the new KFX format which is more difficult to deal with especially as I'm on a Mac.

A new irk is that they even killed off Libby and my local library becasue all the books are being routed through Amazon for download which brings me tote same position that I cant get them off Amazon and to my Kindle.

I have managed to get the book downloaded to my MBP for reading in the Kindle app but that defeats the purpose of the E-ink. After some digging I found where its hiding the books, literally 20 directories in and you have to dig because the book isnt called anything you would recognize.

Finding it is only half the issue.While Im not a programmer one of the files (I cant recall the type sounds like a timer so the file goes away but I'm not sure) the other issue is the book is in a KFX format that my Kindle wont handle so now Im faced with figuring out the KFX conversion on a MAC.

I saw the Windows way and can try that but damn what a runaround.

Do you or does anyone have any thoughts on the proper way to get boks from the library? Am I on the right path?
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Old 03-06-2025, 09:36 PM   #798
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There is currently no way to deDRM books downloaded with Kindle for Mac. If you have no eink Kindle with wifi, then the only way is to use the Windows app.
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Old 03-07-2025, 04:58 AM   #799
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Honestly at this point it does look like the only way to put books on non-wifi Kindles is to remove the DRM and sideload them via USB.

So if you want to buy your books from Amazon, then currently the easiest way is to get them via Kindle for PC as detailed in this thread (see Method 2); you will have to convert the KFX book to AZW before sending to your Kindle. Otherwise you can consider buying your books at Kobo (whose DRM is easy to strip) or from other retailers offering DRM-free books.
Have just bought a few ebooks from Kobo
They will download to my pc.
But still got a long list on Amazon that are not on Kobo.
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Not having D&T makes it much harder to back up your amazon purchases in bulk. By having D&T, people could run a script and download everything, but on kindle going one at a time is dreadfully slow. I have in the neighborhood of 3000 books in my Kindle library, can you imagine doing that on the device itself? I'd have to periodically make room because my Kindle doesn't even have enough storage capacity to hold all of the books at one time.

I'm not following you? Isn't it the other way around? If you want to convert in bulk, isn't it much, much easier to use the files on your Kindle as opposed to D&T?

If I use the D&T method, that means I go to Amazon's website and select 25 books at time (that's the most you can select). I have 1,000 books, so that means I'd have to repeat this process 40 times. Then I import them into Calibre to strip their DRM.

In contrast, if I use the files on my Kindle, all I have to do is connect my Kindle to my PC, open Calibre, select all kfx files and import them. Boom. Easy-peasy.

I understand many people don't have a compatible Kindle, so I'm not suggesting this is easy for everyone. And I understand a lot of people feel awz converts to epub more smoothly than kfx. So I'm not arguing overall the direct-from-Kindle method is better than D&T.

Rather, I'm narrowly addressing your comment that (for people with compatible devices) bulk conversions are easier with D&T than with direct-from-Kindle conversions. I would strongly disagree.

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Old 03-07-2025, 08:13 AM   #801
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There is currently no way to deDRM books downloaded with Kindle for Mac. If you have no eink Kindle with wifi, then the only way is to use the Windows app.
There is the Android emulator method. It does need the alpha version of DeDRM.
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Old 03-07-2025, 08:14 PM   #802
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As far as I can tell this is only on the US Amazon site. It was likely done in order to comply with California's AB-2426 bill, which requires online sellers to clearly indicate that digital good purchases are in fact licenses (emphasis mine):
Yeah, even though I'm in AUS, I still use the USA Amazon store for ebooks. That was the only store for me when I got my first E-Ink Kindle device, and I've never seen the need to change stores, especially as I realized some ebooks aren't available from the AUS Amazon store. That's not to say I have access to all the ebooks at the USA store, I definitely don't, and I can view many more if I use a VPN, and the prices are often much cheaper, more than exchange rate and taxes and cost of living can account for.
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For those who might like to know.

I've made about a dozen ebook purchases at Amazon since the 26th, one of those being a paid pre-order, the rest were freebies.

On Windows 7 with the last version of calibre that supports that OS and the last DeDRM plugin that supports that version of calibre, I was able to get my ebooks after a wifi download to my old E-Ink Kindle Keyboard device. I simply browsed the 'documents' folder on my device and imported into calibre, and now I am no longer beholden to a Kindle device.

I'd never used that method before and it worked well, and it really was a deciding factor for me, an experiment, to see whether I would continue to acquire ebooks from Amazon ... at least until I setup something on Windows 11, and providing Amazon don't screw things up meanwhile.
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...I was able to get my ebooks after a wifi download to my old E-Ink Kindle Keyboard device ... and now I am no longer beholden to a Kindle device.
Aren't you still beholden to you "old E-Ink Kindle Keyboard device" to get your ebooks? I don't understand what you are trying to say in this paragraph.
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Aren't you still beholden to you "old E-Ink Kindle Keyboard device" to get your ebooks? I don't understand what you are trying to say in this paragraph.
They probably mean they no longer buy Kindle books.
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Old 03-08-2025, 11:12 AM   #806
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If I use the D&T method, that means I go to Amazon's website and select 25 books at time (that's the most you can select). I have 1,000 books, so that means I'd have to repeat this process 40 times. Then I import them into Calibre to strip their DRM.
If you were limiting yourself to the go to the web page and download 1 at a time method, you might be right. OTOH, a little browsing on the Internet would have found a selection of ways to download all your collection at once.
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They probably mean they no longer buy Kindle books.
Oh. I mistook the statement to mean they no longer needed a Kindle to continue downloading future books from Amazon.
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Aren't you still beholden to you "old E-Ink Kindle Keyboard device" to get your ebooks? I don't understand what you are trying to say in this paragraph.
Yes, if I still buy from Amazon, but those ebooks I mentioned have now been freed, and I can read them on any device I want.
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Today I tried buying and converting a current book from amazon.de (amazon.de/Hieb-Strich-Story-Margaret-Atwood-ebook/dp/B0DJPGKNRN/). In the Kindle App at windows laptop there is it as a kfx-zip file. In Calibre this file is locked by DRM and can't converted into epub.
Then I loaded the book on my Paperwhite (11th generation) and transferred the book into the Calibre library. There it is a kfx file and can be converted. I hope this way will continue to work.
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Your Kindle app was probably too new. Needs to be no more recent then 2.4.0 (70904).
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