Problem with  

Mich06 · 02-15-2025, 06:11 AM

I recently edited a text using the Calibre Editor 7.26, and I used   to generate thin non-breaking spaces, mostly to manage how punctuation behaves within a french text (i.e. thin space before ; : ! », etc.)
All went well in the editor, the displayed text on the right pane was OK.
BUT when I open the ePub file with the Calibre Viewer 7.26, my non-breaking spaces break ! How can I fix this, please ?

JSWolf · 02-15-2025, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mich06

I recently edited a text using the Calibre Editor 7.26, and I used   to generate thin non-breaking spaces, mostly to manage how punctuation behaves within a french text (i.e. thin space before ; : ! », etc.)
All went well in the editor, the displayed text on the right pane was OK.
BUT when I open the ePub file with the Calibre Viewer 7.26, my non-breaking spaces break ! How can I fix this, please ?

Try a different font. maybe the font you've used has a problem with a thin non-breaking space.

Mich06 · 02-15-2025, 06:30 AM

I usually use Georgia ; so I tried Times New Roman, Garamond Pro, Calibri, even Futura. Same problem occurs...

kovidgoyal · 02-15-2025, 06:39 AM

what does they "break" mean? And the viewer and editor both render using Qt WebEngine. Attach a sample ebook showing the issue as there could be anymore of problems causing it.

Mich06 · 02-15-2025, 08:24 AM

“break” means that there's a line break in the wrong place, just where I'd inserted &thinsp ;.
Apparently, you can only insert a URL here, not a file, and my file isn't on the net.
However, I've attached one of the xhtml files from the file, which shows the problem I encountered.

Quote:

<?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?>
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink">

<head>
<title>Intro</title>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="stylesheet.css"/>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="page_styles.css"/>
</head>

<body class="calibre">

Ce texte a été publié pour la première fois dans la Philosophical Review, vol. LXXIV, n°1, janvier 1965. Ses éditeurs l’ont présenté par la note suivante :

La conférence que l’on va lire, et qui jusqu’à présent n’a pas fait l’objet d’une publication, a été préparée par Wittgenstein pour être prononcée à Cambridge à une date comprise entre septembre 1929 et décembre 1930. Elle a probablement été lue devant la société dite « The Heretics » ; Wittgenstein s’est en effet adressé à cette société pendant la période mentionnée ci-dessus. Le manuscrit ne porte pas de titre. Autant que l’on sache, c’est là la seule conférence de caractère public qui ait jamais été écrite ou prononcée par Wittgenstein.

[…]

Nous sommes redevables à M. Rush Rhees des informations ci-dessus et de sa participation à la préparation de ces textes. C’est à lui, ainsi qu’aux autres exécuteurs testamentaires de l’œuvre de Wittgenstein, Miss Elizabeth Anscombe et le Professeur G. H. von Wright, que nous devons d’avoir été autorisés à publier cette conférence.

Les Éditeurs.

</body>

</html>

Mich06 · 02-15-2025, 08:29 AM

The problem can be seen, for instance, in the sentence:

**************
Elle a probablement été lue devant la société dite « The Heretics » ;

***************
In the editor, there is no line break in the middle of :
« The Heretics » ;

But there is in the viewer.

BetterRed · 02-15-2025, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mich06

. . .
Apparently, you can only insert a URL here, not a file, and my file isn't on the net.

Click the "Go Advanced" button, then click the paper clip in the toolbar top row:

Click image for larger version

Name: Screenshot 2025-02-16 074855.jpg
Views: 102
Size: 152.1 KB
ID: 213702

If the file type you want to attach isn't in the list, put the file in a zip archive.

BR

Mich06 · 02-15-2025, 03:58 PM

Thanks !

icallaci · 02-15-2025, 07:37 PM

I thought   ( &#8201; ) allowed breaks but maybe I'm wrong. Have you tried a narrow non-breaking space ( &#8239; )?

DNSB · 02-15-2025, 08:26 PM

Beaten to the answer by icallaci.

From what I remember... stopped to check Wikipedia and it does say the narrow non-breaking space is the correct choice.

Mich06 · 02-16-2025, 05:25 AM

It worked.

What I did in the editor was :
- insert character (from the edit menu)
- Go to general punctuation
- Select [nnb sp] (NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE (U+202F) )
- Search and replace   with this character (appears as a grey character)

So I was wrong from the beginning thinking   was a no-break thing ... I thought it was the "thin" version of   ... my bad !

Thanks for your help !

icallaci · 02-16-2025, 09:30 AM

Oh, good. Glad it worked.

02-15-2025, 06:11 AM	#1
Mich06 Enthusiast Posts: 34 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2020 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 32 GB	Problem with   I recently edited a text using the Calibre Editor 7.26, and I used   to generate thin non-breaking spaces, mostly to manage how punctuation behaves within a french text (i.e. thin space before ; : ! », etc.) All went well in the editor, the displayed text on the right pane was OK. BUT when I open the ePub file with the Calibre Viewer 7.26, my non-breaking spaces break ! How can I fix this, please ?

02-15-2025, 08:29 AM	#6
Mich06 Enthusiast Posts: 34 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2020 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 32 GB	The problem can be seen, for instance, in the sentence: ************ Elle a probablement été lue devant la société dite « <i class="calibre4">The Heretics</i> » ; ************* In the editor, there is no line break in the middle of : « <i class=“calibre4”>The Heretics</i> » ; But there is in the viewer.

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Mich06 Enthusiast Posts: 34 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2020 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 32 GB	I usually use Georgia ; so I tried Times New Roman, Garamond Pro, Calibri, even Futura. Same problem occurs...

02-15-2025, 06:39 AM	#4
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 44,986 Karma: 27109258 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	what does they "break" mean? And the viewer and editor both render using Qt WebEngine. Attach a sample ebook showing the issue as there could be anymore of problems causing it.

02-15-2025, 07:37 PM	#9
icallaci Guru Posts: 805 Karma: 6528026 Join Date: Sep 2012 Device: Kobo Elipsa	I thought   ( &#8201; ) allowed breaks but maybe I'm wrong. Have you tried a narrow non-breaking space ( &#8239; )?

02-15-2025, 08:26 PM	#10
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 43,418 Karma: 165170834 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	Beaten to the answer by icallaci. From what I remember... stopped to check Wikipedia and it does say the narrow non-breaking space is the correct choice.

02-16-2025, 05:25 AM	#11
Mich06 Enthusiast Posts: 34 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2020 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 32 GB	It worked. What I did in the editor was : - insert character (from the edit menu) - Go to general punctuation - Select [nnb sp] (NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE (U+202F) ) - Search and replace   with this character (appears as a grey character) So I was wrong from the beginning thinking   was a no-break thing ... I thought it was the "thin" version of   ... my bad ! Thanks for your help !

02-16-2025, 09:30 AM	#12
icallaci Guru Posts: 805 Karma: 6528026 Join Date: Sep 2012 Device: Kobo Elipsa	Oh, good. Glad it worked.