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08-20-2018, 08:03 AM | #16 |
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So epub must work differently. When borrowing for Kindle , the books are indistinguishable from purchased books. Only the server knows when they expire. If the borrow expires the book is still readable until the next sync.
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08-22-2018, 08:21 AM | #18 |
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This doesn't fly though. What is to stop patrons simply never returning items? Or from keeping an in-demand best seller for 6 months? I just feel like this would end up costing a library more.
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Edit: As far as never returning an item, that could be considered theft, or breach of contract, or something else. Last edited by John F; 08-22-2018 at 10:10 AM. |
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Unfortunately, suspended privileges because of blocked cards on account of overdue fines and lost items affect poor children more than anyone else.
Here's an article from the New York Times from last October about an amnesty program for children. Quote:
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Breach of contract is just the civil remedy, wherein you would sue the patron for more money. A great deal of the responsibility instilled in me as a child with my first library card was that the fines had to come out of my piggy bank if I didn't get a book back on time. I think fines have their place, within reason. |
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What happens now when people fail to pay their library fines? Maybe only charge someone with theft if they pushed the issue. Let them steal one book, and rescind their card if they do not want to pay for it somehow; use the fool me once... Proverb. Not everyone needs to go to jail for the first time they failed to return a book. It doesn't have to be an absolute thing. I seem to recall stories of books not being returned for years and late fees being waived. By the way, I don't really care; I always return my loans on time. |
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My main point was that it is a bad idea to use something like late fees to fund recurring expenses. I don't believe late fees originated as a revenue source, a paid loan extension, or as punishment, but as an incentive to return items on time. DNSB is correct that statistically there will be late returns, but in general, statistics can change. By limiting use of fees to discretionary spending, it would be no big deal if fee revenue plummeted. By "Ideally, no item would ever be overdue." I meant that that it is desirable that people return books on time, not that physical books should essentially be free to keep however long it takes to read them, without limit. As a child, I checked out multiple books at a time. Now it almost always takes me longer than a loan period to read a book, so I only check out 0 to 2 books a year and buy e-books commercially instead. So longer loan periods or the ability to renew regardless of holds would seemingly benefit me, but it would just make wait periods even longer than they already are. |
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