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Old 10-09-2014, 03:52 PM   #166
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I wonder if the reader was managed by ADE. It has no reason to look for books if it wasn't. It only has reason to ask you if you want to authorize it if it's not already authorized.
In the verification it was a Sony Reader.
In Nate's case it was an epub reader that was not authorized to the app.

Just plugging it in triggers it, apparently.

"An ebook reader! Wheee! Let's see what's on it. Hey, bo-osss... Lookee here!"
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:02 PM   #167
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That's what I was thinking, but I didn't think Baen used ADE or any DRM for that matter, so that's why it jumped out at me.
Baen ebooks typically contain calibre metadata as an artifact of their production process.
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:04 PM   #168
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In the verification it was a Sony Reader.
In Nate's case it was an epub reader that was not authorized to the app.

Just plugging it in triggers it, apparently.

"An ebook reader! Wheee! Let's see what's on it. Hey, bo-osss... Lookee here!"
I wonder if ADE4 would get all confused if a Kindle is connected
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:10 PM   #169
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Can ADE tell the difference between an ebook which has never had DRM, and the same ebook which has had the Adobe DRM stripped from it (and therefore possibly pirated)?
In theory, the identifier in the OPF and NCX files should be unique to that book, and removing DRM does not change that.

In reality, if you've removed DRM in order to clean up the book's formatting and/or metadata, there's nothing stopping you from changing the identifier in the process.
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:14 PM   #170
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What is the basis for the "right" to privacy that so many people seem think they have?

Not looking to argue, just genuinely asking for my own edification.
In the United States, it comes from the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution. Specifically, "The right of the People to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures."
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:15 PM   #171
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Very strange coincidence, but while I was sleeping (in the middle of reading this thread) my Kindle for Android app updated. Now it has a setting to disable data usage. It is called "Activity Data" - Automatically use data from this device to provide features through Whispersync for Books. If you disable it warns about possible missing features.

Connection to calling home in DE? If yes, than Amazon is fast in providing an option to opt out.
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:33 PM   #172
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The option to disable Whispersync has always been available in the MYK settings page, so it looks like they've now added what is an on-device option rather than just an on/off setting that applies to all the devices registered to one account.
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:40 PM   #173
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The option to disable Whispersync has always been available in the MYK settings page, so it looks like they've now added what is an on-device option rather than just an on/off setting that applies to all the devices registered to one account.
Yes, and I welcome the change. Not really out of privacy concerns, but for decreased data usage while on the go.
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Old 10-09-2014, 06:41 PM   #174
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I'm trying to make sense of how/when ADE4 sends out the request for info.

Is it when an epub ereader is attached to the PC and ADE4 is on the PC and open?

Is it when an epub ereader with ADE registration is connected to the internet via it's own wifi?

Is it when an epub ereader is connected to Calibre?

Is it when an epub ereader is connected to Calibre and ADE4 has been activated on the PC but not necessarily open at the same time that the ereader is connected to Calibre?

Other?
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I'm trying to make sense of how/when ADE4 sends out the request for info.

Is it when an epub ereader is attached to the PC and ADE4 is on the PC and open?

Is it when an epub ereader with ADE registration is connected to the internet via it's own wifi?

Is it when an epub ereader is connected to Calibre?

Is it when an epub ereader is connected to Calibre and ADE4 has been activated on the PC but not necessarily open at the same time that the ereader is connected to Calibre?

Other?
It sounds to me like it's when ADE 4 is open and a Reader that uses ADE is attached is when ADE 4 has a look and sends back the results.
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I'm trying to make sense of how/when ADE4 sends out the request for info.

Is it when an epub ereader is attached to the PC and ADE4 is on the PC and open?

Is it when an epub ereader with ADE registration is connected to the internet via it's own wifi?

Is it when an epub ereader is connected to Calibre?

Is it when an epub ereader is connected to Calibre and ADE4 has been activated on the PC but not necessarily open at the same time that the ereader is connected to Calibre?

Other?
It sounds like number 2:
Open ADE 4 and if it sees a reader it will scan it and report.
Even if the reader is not authorized.


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Platform: Win7 with ADE4.0 and Sony Reader Software installed.

Fired up Wireshark.
Connected Sony Reader to PC via USB cable
Started ADE 4.0
Sony Reader shows up as two device in ADE: PRS-600 and "SD Card in PRS-600"
Opened a book in the DE library and flipped through a couple pages.
Captured the output.
Several of the books, e.g., "The City & The City", come from the Sony Reader and were never imported into an ADE library.
Reporting on a book being opened for sync is one thing--scraping any random reader it finds and autonomously reporting on it is a whole different story.
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Old 10-09-2014, 07:40 PM   #177
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This why my e-book reader is unconnected to the Internet. Something that can't hapen, won't happen.

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This why my e-book reader is unconnected to the Internet. Something that can't hapen, won't happen.

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Sideloading has its uses.
Which is why some outfits have a problem with it...
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I've only connected my T1 once to the net.
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