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Old 05-25-2017, 02:40 PM   #121
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Hmmm. Why does the title of this thread state that it's been "released", then? "Released" to me has the meaning that it's possible to buy it.
You can pre-order now on Amazon and B&H.
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Old 05-25-2017, 02:41 PM   #122
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I agree. If you want an e-ink tablet, get an Onyx. Some people just want a pdf reader and annotator. But by your own statement, it would make sense to support .doc/x or perhaps .rtf. Can Word easily import .pdf? I imagine converting from .pdf will be hard. One might want to create documents on the Sony. Hmmm, maybe I'm missing the point.
According to Wikipedia, the .doc format is an open format, with some source code for certain features kept behind by Microsoft.

Perhaps they don't want to compromise on the final experience with less-than-perfect format integration? Only reason I can think of to exclude it.

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About $800 for a PDF reader is a silly price.
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Old 05-25-2017, 03:20 PM   #124
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About $800 for a PDF reader is a silly price.
It may be silly for you, but different people have different needs. I paid considerably more than that for my 12.9" iPad Pro, which I use exclusively as a PDF reader.

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Old 05-25-2017, 03:23 PM   #125
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In other words it's being released on 20th June. It certainly wasn't released on 10th April, which is when this thread started!
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About $800 for a PDF reader is a silly price.
At the end of the day, it is a 13.3" e-ink reader, and they don't come cheap. The Onyx is also very expensive. At the current price-point, I suspect most people who buy these large devices have money to burn, so they don't care about the price. I've seen people with multiple large devices. Price is not a limit to them. These products are aimed at them.
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I am hesitating between the DPT-RP1 and the reMarkable which is supposed to be released in August:

1. The DPT-RP1 is 13.3 inch whereas the reMarkable is 10.3 inch. Is 10.3 still good enough to read pdfs? Or only with cropped margins?

And if the margins are cropped, no more space to add notes? Also cropping margins will likely increase page turning time as new pages need to be adjusted as well.

2. What is your estimate of the speed of page turning and latency of writing on the DPT-RP1? The latency of reMarkable is said to be around 55ms but Sony doesn't provide such a number and I find it hard to judge the latency of the DPT-RP1 from the videos - but it seems fast.

3. The DPT-RP1 supports only .pdf whereas the reMarkable is said to support .epub as well (but not .drm however). What are your thoughts on this? I would like to read some ebooks on my e-ink device as well. Should I in that case wait for the Onyx Note 10.3 where I can install apps like Kindle?

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At the end of the day, it is a 13.3" e-ink reader, and they don't come cheap. The Onyx is also very expensive. At the current price-point, I suspect most people who buy these large devices have money to burn, so they don't care about the price. I've seen people with multiple large devices. Price is not a limit to them. These products are aimed at them.
I'm not a wealthy person, but I'd buy this device instead of an iPhone 8...

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Old 05-25-2017, 05:13 PM   #129
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But there's no reason not to do more than just handle PDF. I know the Onyx Boox Max Carta is not cheap, but it is a much better value.
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But there's no reason not to do more than just handle PDF. I know the Onyx Boox Max Carta is not cheap, but it is a much better value.
The Sony delivers a more flawless PDF reader and notation experience. That simple. For some, that is what they want.
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But there's no reason not to do more than just handle PDF. I know the Onyx Boox Max Carta is not cheap, but it is a much better value.
i would love for the sony to support epub. i'm begging for it, in fact. but what ever the sony can do that the onyx can also do, sony blows the onyx out of the water. that's why some people are willing to pay for such a limited-functioning device. it simply does whatever it does in a way that no one else can match. i no longer have an onyx boox, but when i did, writing on it was horrible compared to the sony dpt-s1. with it's higher/better specs, the dpt-rp1 will most likely do much better.

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About $800 for a PDF reader is a silly price.
$699 for premium device which can read PDF, note taking and life saver if you need to carry tonnes of documents. With unparalleled security if you have sensitive documents.

Compared to $900 device running on Android 4.0 which can't run any of current apps. Hope people are enjoying reading epubs on 13.3" reader...

We should start survey what actually 13.3" readers are being used for.
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The Sony delivers a more flawless PDF reader and notation experience. That simple. For some, that is what they want.
This.

I'm a law student and my hobby is deciphering old soviet military documents. For those things this device is a life saver.

1) It will allow me to drop kg's of law bundles during my 55km bike trip on a daily basis

2) I can finally get rid of ridiculous stacks of old notes, where I need to reserve an entire evening for just to find something in it.

3) I can take notes on print-outs and specific laws without actually printing out documents or ruining a perfectly fine bundle.

4) It will save me €30 a month on paper and printing costs alone

5) It will allow me to continue working when my eye-strain sets in

6) I can even continue working when I don't have a desk at my disposal.

7) I don't have to process my notes every night, since I can just make folders and subfolders on the device.

8) The note-taking on one side and pdf on the other side has been my wet dream for years. I cannot express in words how much I wanted such an option.

Sitting with a desktop PC for working, a laptop on the side for the document I need to see and a dictionary or law bundle shoveled somewhere on the desk and a filing folder for my
hand notes is just about the most unworkable situation you can come across.

With this device I can finally have a normal work space without books falling on the ground or my patience wearing thin.

Yes, it isn't a cheap device ($1100 including taxes and import charges) and the lack of a European launch (thus EU warranty) makes the Onyx Max Carta an attractive option as well. But my time saved with the DPT-RP1 on a daily basis as well as getting rid of my frustrations make it a tough decision.

I'm still some money short for it and I don't need it for september, so at least I have some time to make my decision.
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In other words it's being released on 20th June. It certainly wasn't released on 10th April, which is when this thread started!
It should probably have read announced, no all posters have English as their first language. Even if you can order it now I don't think it will ship before June 5 (Japan).

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