"Wait for 30 seconds before proceeding"

Renate · 01-31-2023, 10:06 AM

You've probably not noticed this and if you did it probably didn't make a dent in your life.
If your bootloader is unlocked then every time your device reboots (including powering up from fully off) it will wait for 30 seconds.
The idea is to display a warning that your device is unlocked.
Unfortunately (or fortunately) there is no warning implemented so it's rather pointless.
I've wasted years of time waiting for this 30 seconds as I've switched between edl, fastboot, recovery, system.

So, I wrote a patch for abl (the Android bootloader) that skips this delay.
It's only a teensy mod but of course it requires unpacking/packing/rehashing.
I have it running on my Poke3 just fine. It's a dandy improvement (for me).
If you'd like the same for your device, just pull and give me a copy of your abl.

denisuu · 01-31-2023, 02:19 PM

That's awesome! So it actually cuts 30 seconds of the boottime?

Renate · 01-31-2023, 02:31 PM

Yes, it kills the dead time.
Still, if you're a normal user and never reboot (just sleep) you'll hardly notice the difference.

Edit: I've got creating the patch down to 100% automatic procedure now.

mergen3107 · 02-01-2023, 09:52 PM

But does this mean that if you got stuck in a “bootloop” like in a neighboring thread with removed system apps, you have no chance to talk via adb during boot? So edl will be the only option left

Renate · 02-02-2023, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mergen3107

You have no chance to talk via adb during boot?

The earliest you ever get ADB is after Linux has started and the init daemon has started ADB.
This is about 10 seconds before you see your home screen.
With some systems ADB has to wait until the Android subsystem sets the USB configuration.

Here's a short rundown of booting:

Code:

Run Primary BootLoader (PBL) from ROM
Run Secondary BootLoader (xbl) from flash
Run Android Bootloader (abl) from flash
If want to do fastboot
    -> Do fastboot (inside abl)
If want to do recovery
    -> Load recovery
Load boot image, but don't start it
If device is unlocked
    Print "Wait for 30 seconds before proceeding"
    Sleep 30 seconds (doing absolutely nothing)
Start boot image
Start init daemon
Start adbd
Start zygote (Android subsystem)
Start home application (Launcher)

So, in those 30 seconds, there is no ADB running, no EDL, it's not even listening for key presses.

mergen3107 · 02-02-2023, 09:49 AM

Ok! I might give it a try

Where do I find the abl?

Renate · 02-02-2023, 10:13 AM

Do you have an EDL loader for this?
I just want to make sure that you have EDL available in worst case.

You can:

Code:

C:\>adb shell
# dd if=/dev/block/by-name/abl of=/sdcard/abl
# ^D
C:\>adb pull sdcard/abl

This is presuming that you're not A/B, i.e. abl_a, abl_b

mergen3107 · 02-02-2023, 01:08 PM

Yes, I do have EDL and I can access it without command line. That was my step 1 even before achieving root.

Thanks! I’ll PM you when I find it this evening.

mergen3107 · 02-03-2023, 09:33 PM

Thank you Renate!

Customized loader by you works OK!

However, I haven’t seen the 30 sec improvement, maybe only 10-15 sec. Total boot time after restart is 40 sec. What are your timings before and after the patch?

Renate · 02-04-2023, 06:33 AM

I went back and checked the timings.
There really should be exactly a 30 second difference and there is.
I ran this from adb reboot with a chained desktop timer:

Code:

adb reboot & wndctrl timer /kspace

        Onyx logo  boot animation  starting Android  Launcher ready
        ---------  --------------  ----------------  --------------
abl     5          15              25                30
ablmod  5          45              55                60

mergen3107 · 02-04-2023, 02:34 PM

What is wndctrl I cannot find it anywhere.

Renate · 02-04-2023, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mergen3107

What is wndctrl I cannot find it anywhere.

No, of course you can't.
It's just one of my little helper apps that can talk to other apps. Like Tasker or something.
Timer is my own little app too.

But in any case it's not really important. You can do this all with a kitchen clock with a sweep second hand.

mergen3107 · 02-04-2023, 03:12 PM

OK

I don't know now, I can't see the difference, even the 10-15 sec anymore. It is 39-41 second from I send "reboot" in shell until I see main screen.

Thank you anyway!

Renate · 02-04-2023, 03:16 PM

It could be that you don't have that 30 second delay at all.
Unless it was previously 70 seconds boot time.
Is your bootloader unlocked?

mergen3107 · 02-05-2023, 12:11 AM

Yes, it is unlocked with “oem unlocked something something” key in fastboot.

Maybe I don’t have the delay, because AFAIR it has never been more than 50 seconds to boot

01-31-2023, 10:06 AM	#1
Renate Wizard Posts: 2,319 Karma: 9999999 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Nook NST, Glow2, 3, 4, '21, Kobo Aura2, Poke3, Poke5	"Wait for 30 seconds before proceeding" You've probably not noticed this and if you did it probably didn't make a dent in your life. If your bootloader is unlocked then every time your device reboots (including powering up from fully off) it will wait for 30 seconds. The idea is to display a warning that your device is unlocked. Unfortunately (or fortunately) there is no warning implemented so it's rather pointless. I've wasted years of time waiting for this 30 seconds as I've switched between edl, fastboot, recovery, system. So, I wrote a patch for abl (the Android bootloader) that skips this delay. It's only a teensy mod but of course it requires unpacking/packing/rehashing. I have it running on my Poke3 just fine. It's a dandy improvement (for me). If you'd like the same for your device, just pull and give me a copy of your abl. Last edited by Renate; 01-31-2023 at 10:20 AM.

01-31-2023, 02:31 PM	#3
Renate Wizard Posts: 2,319 Karma: 9999999 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Nook NST, Glow2, 3, 4, '21, Kobo Aura2, Poke3, Poke5	Yes, it kills the dead time. Still, if you're a normal user and never reboot (just sleep) you'll hardly notice the difference. Edit: I've got creating the patch down to 100% automatic procedure now. Last edited by Renate; 02-01-2023 at 05:53 PM.

02-02-2023, 10:13 AM	#7
Renate Wizard Posts: 2,319 Karma: 9999999 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Nook NST, Glow2, 3, 4, '21, Kobo Aura2, Poke3, Poke5	Do you have an EDL loader for this? I just want to make sure that you have EDL available in worst case. You can: Code: C:\>adb shell # dd if=/dev/block/by-name/abl of=/sdcard/abl # ^D C:\>adb pull sdcard/abl This is presuming that you're not A/B, i.e. abl_a, abl_b

02-04-2023, 06:33 AM	#10
Renate Wizard Posts: 2,319 Karma: 9999999 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Nook NST, Glow2, 3, 4, '21, Kobo Aura2, Poke3, Poke5	I went back and checked the timings. There really should be exactly a 30 second difference and there is. I ran this from adb reboot with a chained desktop timer: Code: adb reboot & wndctrl timer /kspace Onyx logo boot animation starting Android Launcher ready --------- -------------- ---------------- -------------- abl 5 15 25 30 ablmod 5 45 55 60

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mergen3107 Wizard Posts: 1,061 Karma: 4234828 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cape Canaveral Device: Kindle Scribe	Ok! I might give it a try Where do I find the abl?

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mergen3107 Wizard Posts: 1,061 Karma: 4234828 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cape Canaveral Device: Kindle Scribe	Yes, I do have EDL and I can access it without command line. That was my step 1 even before achieving root. Thanks! I’ll PM you when I find it this evening.

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mergen3107 Wizard Posts: 1,061 Karma: 4234828 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cape Canaveral Device: Kindle Scribe	Thank you Renate! Customized loader by you works OK! However, I haven’t seen the 30 sec improvement, maybe only 10-15 sec. Total boot time after restart is 40 sec. What are your timings before and after the patch?

02-04-2023, 02:34 PM	#11
mergen3107 Wizard Posts: 1,061 Karma: 4234828 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cape Canaveral Device: Kindle Scribe	What is wndctrl I cannot find it anywhere.

02-04-2023, 03:12 PM	#13
mergen3107 Wizard Posts: 1,061 Karma: 4234828 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cape Canaveral Device: Kindle Scribe	OK I don't know now, I can't see the difference, even the 10-15 sec anymore. It is 39-41 second from I send "reboot" in shell until I see main screen. Thank you anyway!

02-04-2023, 03:16 PM	#14
Renate Wizard Posts: 2,319 Karma: 9999999 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Nook NST, Glow2, 3, 4, '21, Kobo Aura2, Poke3, Poke5	It could be that you don't have that 30 second delay at all. Unless it was previously 70 seconds boot time. Is your bootloader unlocked?

02-05-2023, 12:11 AM	#15
mergen3107 Wizard Posts: 1,061 Karma: 4234828 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cape Canaveral Device: Kindle Scribe	Yes, it is unlocked with “oem unlocked something something” key in fastboot. Maybe I don’t have the delay, because AFAIR it has never been more than 50 seconds to boot

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