A few questions regrading Noox Boox Max

ist · 03-30-2017, 04:53 AM

Hello everybody,

As many, I'm thrilled with a real A4 mass production e-book reader, to hit the market (let leave the price aside, for a moment).

As many, I consider myself to be able to purchase it (not easy, but for now – leave that aside), so there are very real questions for me to consider, especially IF eventually I'll become proud owner of Onyx Boox Max. I'm intentionally asking my questions here, in “Onyx forum” (and not in “Which one should I buy” thread), since as many – I'm considered with reader actual performance, hence asking advice, from people actually owning it and therefore, able to share experiences. I'll glad if you may answer the following questions. I'm sure, it will help many others, who're seriously considering that device. Thank you!

1. Is there any manufacturer, rumor, known press release, anything that says – there will be another, real A4 reader on the market?
2. Since it's android device – are you able to read (use) Kindle books (Kindle application) on it?
3. For how long, battery holds, assuming you turned off, everything unnecessary for reading? Does the screen turns off eventually (otherwise, the battery will run out)?
4. Are you able to read colored book on it? Now, I know it's a white and black screen – but, does the resolution and amount of shades of gray enough, or you turn on your tablet every time, you're reading a colored book? Say, a medical anatomy book?
5. Is it reasonable to expect, Boox Max model which will include back-light, or one with buttons placed more reasonable for it designed purpose, reading?

Thank you all in advance. Feel free to share anything, any experience that in your opinion, should or might affect any reasonable person decision to purchase (or not), that reader. Thank you!

Randy11 · 03-30-2017, 05:36 AM

Hello !

Quote:

Originally Posted by ist

3. For how long, battery holds, assuming you turned off, everything unnecessary for reading? Does the screen turns off eventually (otherwise, the battery will run out)?

En e-ink doesn't consume current, only when the display is changed. You can stay with the same display for weeks without drain the battery.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ist

5. Is it reasonable to expect, Boox Max model which will include back-light, or one with buttons placed more reasonable for it designed purpose, reading?

The back-light was previously discussed here, it's seems not possible because the big screen's size, too big to avoid some strange effects.

JSWolf · 03-30-2017, 05:41 AM

Just a quick correction. It's the Onyx Boox Max.

ist · 03-30-2017, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy11

Hello !

En e-ink doesn't consume current, only when the display is changed. You can stay with the same display for weeks without drain the battery.

The back-light was previously discussed here, it's seems not possible because the big screen's size, too big to avoid some strange effects.

Hello and thank you!

Now, regarding the battery: sure, I know e-ink holds for days (my Hanlin v3 runs almost on it factory charge

. But, that (in my opinion) is the downside of making readers based on Android and with WiFi. From what I've heard, the charge lasts a lot less - hence, I'm asking of maximum amount possible (with everything I can think of, shut off).

Additionally, anyone here was able to use Kindle on that device?

P.S.Thank you JSWolf, I fixed the header.

pochopsp · 03-30-2017, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy11

En e-ink doesn't consume current, only when the display is changed. You can stay with the same display for weeks without drain the battery.

True, but eReaders are computers, so even if e-ink screen doesn't consume energy, there will always be the processor and the motherboard still active and running, which will consume battery charge.

bsnick · 03-30-2017, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pochopsp

True, but eReaders are computers, so even if e-ink screen doesn't consume energy, there will always be the processor and the motherboard still active and running, which will consume battery charge.

Yeah, things stay active until you put the device to sleep.

I've wished for awhile that there was an option to have the device take a screenshot before going to sleep and have that screenshot be the screensaver.

Randy11 · 03-30-2017, 10:15 AM

Hello Pochopsp,

You're right, my answer was only for the second part of the question

Quote:

Does the screen turns off eventually (otherwise, the battery will run out)?

JSWolf · 03-30-2017, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bsnick

Yeah, things stay active until you put the device to sleep.

I've wished for awhile that there was an option to have the device take a screenshot before going to sleep and have that screenshot be the screensaver.

Do that and you'll go to use the device and try to use it to find it's sleeping and you'll then feel foolish. (IMHO), that's a rather bad idea. That's like a bird flying into a glass door.

rkomar · 03-30-2017, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsnick

Yeah, things stay active until you put the device to sleep.

I've wished for awhile that there was an option to have the device take a screenshot before going to sleep and have that screenshot be the screensaver.

That's been tried in the past with other devices. The problem is that you don't know that the device is asleep then. There were lots of complaints about the device not being responsive at those times. I'm sure it ended up being a headache for the customer support groups.

JSWolf · 03-30-2017, 01:32 PM

There is an Onyx Boox Max Carta coming around the 20th of April.

http://ereader-store.de/en/77-onyx-boox-max-carta.html

Question Mark · 03-30-2017, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkomar

That's been tried in the past with other devices. The problem is that you don't know that the device is asleep then. There were lots of complaints about the device not being responsive at those times. I'm sure it ended up being a headache for the customer support groups.

With a thin header and footer across the top and bottom of the image indicating that the device was sleeping, that shouldn't be much of a problem.

fgdas · 03-30-2017, 03:59 PM

New devices with dual i.MX7 processor from Onyx, Dasung, Remarkable, Boyue, ZingJing, Sony are expected this year. Some during this summer.

Question Mark · 03-30-2017, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fgdas

New devices with dual i.MX7 processor from Onyx, Dasung, Remarkable, Boyue, ZingJing, Sony are expected this year. Some during this summer.

Yes, so you keep "ranting" on various threads. ;-)

Sorry, couldn't resist... Anyway, I do hope that turns out to be true. And so does my wife... because she will then inherit my current Max as I make the upgrade.

ist · 03-31-2017, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fgdas

New devices with dual i.MX7 processor from Onyx, Dasung, Remarkable, Boyue, ZingJing, Sony are expected this year. Some during this summer.

Hello fgdas and thank you!

New devices are always great news, especially e-book readers, which sometimes seems forgotten by vendors (they all probably assume, we're going to hurt our eye reading from 6" tablets).

Now, I'll push the question a little further - are you talking specifically about A4 size devices? Since, smaller size devices are still coming out now and than (at least, AFAIK). Moreover, will the screen technology be different, as far as you know? Since, with all due respect to processing power and memory (and I'm not kidding, more of those will probably allow us run higher versions of Android/Windows, therefore allow use of Kindle or any other subscription service, which is always appreciated - since as I guess, many here cannot allow any more space for physical books and/or do have such subscriptions), so with all due respect, the most important part of the reader is screen technology. I'll be happy to know more about those, if you can share more information.

Since, if some of those will probably available at summer time, some specs are probably already available.

Thank you JSWolf - I saw Carta and Immediately got interested. I compared the specs for both Carta and Max bit by bit, and found them pretty much the same. Besides, Carta comes out with Android 4.4 (which led me to believe at first glance, its h/w specs are better - but after comparing those to Max, I found those to be the same - hence I assume, the Max too will get Android 4.4). The real difference I saw, was indeed the screen (resolution etc.). Anyhow, that's the logic behind my questions - everybody here seems to be pretty happy with their current Max screens (at least, until somebody answer question #4), so it really hard to pay those amount of money, for not that big a difference. I may be wrong, you know

Randy11 · 03-31-2017, 04:52 AM

Hello Ist,

If you look at http://ereader-store.de/en/28-13-3-display, now you have only the ONYX BOOX MAX CARTA, new screen and upgrade for Android. It's not the future ONYX BOOX MAX 2, it's an update of the ONYX BOOX MAX.

The contrast seems better, upgrade from 10:1 to 15:1.

I'd like to have a such contrast.

Sorry if I have not well understood what you want mean.

03-30-2017, 04:53 AM	#1
ist Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2017 Device: Hanlin v3	A few questions regrading Onyx Boox Max Hello everybody, As many, I'm thrilled with a real A4 mass production e-book reader, to hit the market (let leave the price aside, for a moment). As many, I consider myself to be able to purchase it (not easy, but for now – leave that aside), so there are very real questions for me to consider, especially IF eventually I'll become proud owner of Onyx Boox Max. I'm intentionally asking my questions here, in “Onyx forum” (and not in “Which one should I buy” thread), since as many – I'm considered with reader actual performance, hence asking advice, from people actually owning it and therefore, able to share experiences. I'll glad if you may answer the following questions. I'm sure, it will help many others, who're seriously considering that device. Thank you! 1. Is there any manufacturer, rumor, known press release, anything that says – there will be another, real A4 reader on the market? 2. Since it's android device – are you able to read (use) Kindle books (Kindle application) on it? 3. For how long, battery holds, assuming you turned off, everything unnecessary for reading? Does the screen turns off eventually (otherwise, the battery will run out)? 4. Are you able to read colored book on it? Now, I know it's a white and black screen – but, does the resolution and amount of shades of gray enough, or you turn on your tablet every time, you're reading a colored book? Say, a medical anatomy book? 5. Is it reasonable to expect, Boox Max model which will include back-light, or one with buttons placed more reasonable for it designed purpose, reading? Thank you all in advance. Feel free to share anything, any experience that in your opinion, should or might affect any reasonable person decision to purchase (or not), that reader. Thank you! Last edited by ist; 03-30-2017 at 07:27 AM.

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03-30-2017, 05:41 AM	#3
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 74,037 Karma: 129333114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Just a quick correction. It's the Onyx Boox Max.

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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 74,037 Karma: 129333114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	There is an Onyx Boox Max Carta coming around the 20th of April. http://ereader-store.de/en/77-onyx-boox-max-carta.html

03-30-2017, 03:59 PM	#12
fgdas Addict Posts: 346 Karma: 1240117 Join Date: May 2014 Device: 13inch	New devices with dual i.MX7 processor from Onyx, Dasung, Remarkable, Boyue, ZingJing, Sony are expected this year. Some during this summer.

03-31-2017, 04:52 AM	#15
Randy11 Wizard Posts: 1,138 Karma: 1577094 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Samsung EB60, Onyx M92, Onyx Max2	Hello Ist, If you look at http://ereader-store.de/en/28-13-3-display, now you have only the ONYX BOOX MAX CARTA, new screen and upgrade for Android. It's not the future ONYX BOOX MAX 2, it's an update of the ONYX BOOX MAX. The contrast seems better, upgrade from 10:1 to 15:1. I'd like to have a such contrast. Sorry if I have not well understood what you want mean.

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