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Old 09-17-2013, 04:48 PM   #1
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Considering ditching Kindle...think I have 3 primary options? Help?

I had (and loved!) my original Kindle 1. I skipped the K2, bought my dad a K3 and eventually upgraded myself to a K3 (or Kindle Keyboard as they are now known) when the Kindle Touch came out. Call me crazy or old fashioned, but I *want* my physical page turn buttons.

And it looks like Amazon doesn't plan on giving them back anytime soon.

Now, don't get me wrong. I have and use other touch screen devices like an iPad 3 and my android smartphone. But for reading, I *like* the page turn buttons. I like holding the KK with my thumb on the button and a slight twitch moves me forward.

So...I've been trying to sort through all the options out there at the moment...or at least the most well known ones...and it looks like I really only have a handful of options. Are these right?

Sony T2/T3 - looks like the "buttons" are actually just part of a navigation strip below the screen? If so, then this really isn't quite what I'm looking for either.

Nook ST/ST with GlowLight

Bookeen Cybook Odyssey

It seems like everything else I look at does not have page buttons?

So 1st...what am I missing?

And 2nd...which of those options is best?

I know that frontlit/glowlight is a matter of preference. I've done fine without it so far so that's not a major concern.

I use Calibre...so epub vs. azw doesn't really matter to me either. I can convert all my Amazon purchases to epub easily enough.

Unless I'm missing something, none of the KOBO's have page buttons?

The Cybook Odyssey might be off the list because you can't seem to buy them anywhere at the moment! I visit the web page, hit the buy button which takes me to the shop and there are no Odysseys. No Opus' either. Only Orizon. I used the contact form to contact Bookeen Sunday afternoon and so far have no response about when Odyssey might be back in stock or available (to clarify, I am in the USA).

So that kinda leaves me with Sony vs. Nook?

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Old 09-17-2013, 05:04 PM   #2
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So 1st...what am I missing?
The Onyx Boox i62HD also has page turn buttons as does the basic Kindle. IIRC so do some of the models Pocket Book offers.
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Old 09-17-2013, 05:21 PM   #3
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The Onyx Boox i62HD also has page turn buttons as does the basic Kindle. IIRC so do some of the models Pocket Book offers.
Dang. You're right. I did forget about the basic Kindle. Everything is all "Paperwhite!" and "Fire!" these days that I missed it.

Will look at Onyx too...don't know much about them.

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Old 09-18-2013, 08:24 AM   #4
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You should get the basic kindle, or wait and see if BN releases a new e-reader in October, as is rumored.

If you are in the US you will likely have to buy the Onyx from Germany, and pay a LOT.
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I could never go back to a reader without built in front light, but that's just me.

I picked up the Cybook Odyssey HD FL a couple months back and I think it's a solid device. I had two minor issues with it: The bezel is larger than the Kobo Glo's, and the physical buttons are designed in a way that causes them to work best if you press them from the device's front. This isn't an issue if you read while seated or standing, but if you lay on your back and hold the device in one hand, it becomes a problem. Other than that, it's very comparable to the other 6" readers and feels less cheap than the Glo.

The Pyrrus mini has buttons too, and I really like that device (only 4.3", so it may be too small for you). If it had a front light, I would use it more frequently.

Thalia.de sells the Odyssey, but I don't know if they ship to destinations outside of Germany or the EU.
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Are there still cheap Nook STs about. I bought one a few weeks ago on a trip to the UK and it has got me back on e-ink and away from the iPad. It's got page buttons of a sort - they are really just raised ridges, on the front, but they are assignable for forward and backward page turns to suit your preferences. It seem like a really solid piece of kit. Mine's got a front light, which I never use and wi fi, which I also never use. But they were selling them without the light for about £30.
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You should get the basic kindle, or wait and see if BN releases a new e-reader in October, as is rumored.

If you are in the US you will likely have to buy the Onyx from Germany, and pay a LOT.
Yes, I am in the US, so that is a negative against Onyx.

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I could never go back to a reader without built in front light, but that's just me.

I picked up the Cybook Odyssey HD FL a couple months back and I think it's a solid device.

Thalia.de sells the Odyssey, but I don't know if they ship to destinations outside of Germany or the EU.
The Cybook is an option I was looking at, but they have absolutely no Odyssey's listed in the Bookeen shop right now (US). Nothing except the Orizon model. Now, supposedly they have a new release coming soon, so maybe that will change, but right now, nothing. And as far as I can tell, thalia does not ship to the US.

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Are there still cheap Nook STs about. I bought one a few weeks ago on a trip to the UK and it has got me back on e-ink and away from the iPad. It's got page buttons of a sort - they are really just raised ridges, on the front, but they are assignable for forward and backward page turns to suit your preferences. It seem like a really solid piece of kit. Mine's got a front light, which I never use and wi fi, which I also never use. But they were selling them without the light for about £30.
Yes, the Nook is still under consideration but they apparently have something new coming out soon (October) too. So I'll probably just see what happens over the next few weeks and then make a decision.
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I'm the same way with the page turn buttons - I've tried a few touch screen only devices, and I never could break myself of the habit of reaching for that button.

I recently picked up the Sony T2 when the price dropped, and really love the way it fits my hand. The turn buttons are on the left hand side so great placement for thumbing through pages for me.

I had a Nook ST and its buttons were more of an awkward reach for me, being about halfway up the sides of the bezel. The niece I passed it on to loves them where they are - she likes the wider bezel too.

I prefer the Sony UI to the Nook, but both are good devices with SD card slots and good battery life. I had a faulty battery in my Nook and B&N was great about sending me a replacement in under a week.

And I still love and use my Sony 300 weekly - it's a little tank with a center toggle. They go for about $30US on eBay so I grabbed a backup just in case.
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Another possible option that's coming out Icarus Illumina HD – Frontlight (you'd probably have to buy from Europe & have it shipped over)
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You could still get another K3. There are new ones still around. Check eBay.

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I had the Basic Kindle before the paperwhite and loved it. I just gifted it to my niece as I now prefer the PW which eliminated the need for a clip light. I especially liked the size of the Basic, and used a TPU back cover only which made holding it a cinch.
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Another possible option that's coming out Icarus Illumina HD – Frontlight (you'd probably have to buy from Europe & have it shipped over)
Having had a look at the manual, http://www.totalereaders.com/icarus/...ser_manual.pdf I think that this could be a good option, as long as the light is good.

It can be bought from http://www.icarusreader.com/
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I'm the same way with the page turn buttons - I've tried a few touch screen only devices, and I never could break myself of the habit of reaching for that button.

I recently picked up the Sony T2 when the price dropped,
Have to admit I'm watching one or two T2 listings on ebay.

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Another possible option that's coming out Icarus Illumina HD – Frontlight (you'd probably have to buy from Europe & have it shipped over)
That looks interesting actually. I like it. But the price...hmm... The 90 Euro non-VAT price would be about $122 US plus shipping. Still, maybe.

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You could still get another K3. There are new ones still around. Check eBay.
A valid option. As much as I love the page turn buttons though, I don't really use the keyboard at all. Kinda why I'm looking to see what else is out there. Which leads back to ...

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This is probably still the leading option.

Especially since Bookeen has announced that the new Odyssey will have a lower resolution screen.
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Sony T2/T3 - looks like the "buttons" are actually just part of a navigation strip ...
Not quite sure, what you mean by that. They are "real" buttons with rather firm action. Their position is obviously different from older Kindles. The lower part of the Sony chassis is pretty wide, so it offers excellent real estate to hold it one-handedly with your thumb in the front (operating those <>) and the rest of your hand on the back.

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