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speedlever · 12-22-2010, 10:56 AM

Confirmed on my copy of the NET. DVJ2 works fine. But DVJ seems to take us to the notes section (location 19602) using rev.13.18.

Also found in Matthew Henry's Commentary. DVJ search show location 33056 (which is correct), but when you press enter again, it goes to some reference about Canaan. Using DVJ2, the verse pops up as expected and the link to the correct page in the commentary looks good to me.

Edit for clarification: the single enter takes me to the reference location which looks good. It's the 2nd enter that takes me to the scripture itself that seems to be fouled up.

sirmaru · 12-22-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by speedlever

Confirmed on my copy of the NET. DVJ2 works fine. But DVJ seems to take us to the notes section (location 19602) using rev.13.18.

Also found in Matthew Henry's Commentary. DVJ search show location 33056 (which is correct), but when you press enter again, it goes to some reference about Canaan. Using DVJ2, the verse pops up as expected and the link to the correct page in the commentary looks good to me.

I'm glad you confirmed my result. I thought maybe I never indexed completely.

Also, I deleted my Unabridged Matthew Henry since it was getting commentary for large groups of verses, not individual verses. That contrasts to how Logos used to work with MH linked verse to verse commentary.

I like DJV1 for the KJV and NET and it was only Rev1318 which didn't work right so far. I like the method of NOT using periods or spaces. MH did not work that way either by requiring periods and that was another reason I deleted it.

In Bible Studies speed is of the essence to get places. Omitting periods and spaces gets one to where one must go FAST.

I always liked the Bible Knowledge Commentary much better than MH as well. I can only hope that we get a DVJ1 type indexing of that book with direct single verse to commentary connections.

Since Amazon charges very little (one to five dollars) for Bibles and Bible related books for the most part, I don't mind buying them, testing them and then even discarding them if I don't like them.

neonbible · 12-22-2010, 11:30 AM

How do I get this if I am in UK?

sirmaru · 12-22-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by neonbible

How do I get this if I am in UK?

Go to Amazon-UK and search for Osnova books.

osnova · 12-23-2010, 12:48 AM

Regarding the wrong search destinations. I have already reported this issue in this thread here. More details are at http://osnova.com/2010/10/20/kindle-3-search-bugs/

It's a software bug with Kindle 3 (Kindles 2 and DX are not affected) and I cannot fix it. Please send complains to Amazon support (I have done so several times and so far they haven't fixed it). The good thing is that DVJ-2 is not susceptible to this bug. You can also change the font size and the issue may go away.

osnova · 12-23-2010, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by neonbible

How do I get this if I am in UK?

Amazon would not sell my KJV Bible in UK. If you want a copy you can send me an email to osnova@gmail.com or buy this publication http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004BA54RE/

osnova · 12-23-2010, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sirmaru

I like the method of NOT using periods or spaces. MH did not work that way either by requiring periods and that was another reason I deleted it.

I can make a copy for you that works just how you like it. Just let me know which Bible you want to ignore the periods in searches.

HarryT · 12-23-2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by osnova

Amazon would not sell my KJV Bible in UK. If you want a copy you can send me an email to osnova@gmail.com or buy this publication http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004BA54RE/

Is this because the KJV is still under copyright in the UK?

sirmaru · 12-23-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by osnova

I can make a copy for you that works just how you like it. Just let me know which Bible you want to ignore the periods in searches.

Thanks for that offer. Right now KJV and NET satisfy my needs.

Bibles and their related books I'd like to get for Kindle WiF in the future: NIV, Bible Knowledge Commentary.

I know you're trying for NIV. I've seen comments on the Amazon site for that book that many folks complain they give it one star because it lacks DVJ. Zondervan is losing a lot of kindle sales by stubbornly refusing your offer to implement it.

My work around for the NIV is my NowBible which does have a direct verse jump process. Thus it forces me to bring both my NowBible and Kindle WiFi to Church. What suprises me is that Zondervan did allow a DVJ type of locator to be developed for NowBible but not Kindle. Maybe that is the reason they have not allowed your version for Kindle. It could be a contract restriction.

WT Sharpe · 12-23-2010, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Is this because the KJV is still under copyright in the UK?

Please don't tell me that a 400 year old work is still under copyright under British law. And I thought your libel laws were screwy!

HarryT · 12-23-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

Please don't tell me that a 400 year old work is still under copyright under British law. And I thought your libel laws were screwy!

It's protected by "Crown Copyright". This used to be "eternal" but has now been modified so that it runs out around 2040 or so.

WT Sharpe · 12-23-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

It's protected by "Crown Copyright". This used to be "eternal" but has now been modified so that it runs out around 2040 or so.

Did Sonny Bono help write your copyright laws?

HarryT · 12-23-2010, 02:30 PM

"Crown copyright" is very, very old. It long predates modern copyright laws. It gave anything created by, or in the name of, the monarch (and that includes the KJV) perpetual protection. It's now in the process of being abolished, but it was given a 50 year "timeout" when the law was changed.

osnova · 12-23-2010, 02:33 PM

Harry, he is just laughing at this.

WT Sharpe · 12-23-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

"Crown copyright" is very, very old. It long predates modern copyright laws. It gave anything created by, or in the name of, the monarch (and that includes the KJV) perpetual protection. It's now in the process of being abolished, but it was given a 50 year "timeout" when the law was changed.

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Originally Posted by osnova

Harry, he is just laughing at this.

Indeed, Harry! You should know by now never to believe half of what I say.

But what does that mean for the sales of the KJV with DVJ in England? Is it allowed?

12-22-2010, 10:56 AM	#196
speedlever Fanatic Posts: 592 Karma: 138200 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NC, USA Device: PW2014, PW2012, iPad Pro	Confirmed on my copy of the NET. DVJ2 works fine. But DVJ seems to take us to the notes section (location 19602) using rev.13.18. Also found in Matthew Henry's Commentary. DVJ search show location 33056 (which is correct), but when you press enter again, it goes to some reference about Canaan. Using DVJ2, the verse pops up as expected and the link to the correct page in the commentary looks good to me. Edit for clarification: the single enter takes me to the reference location which looks good. It's the 2nd enter that takes me to the scripture itself that seems to be fouled up. Last edited by speedlever; 12-22-2010 at 12:00 PM.

12-23-2010, 12:48 AM	#200
osnova Kindler of the Flame Posts: 582 Karma: 646016 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: US of A Device: K DX,3,KT,KP,KF, KFHD; Nook C, PRS600, iPad, Xoom, N900, N810, Zaurus	Regarding the wrong search destinations. I have already reported this issue in this thread here. More details are at http://osnova.com/2010/10/20/kindle-3-search-bugs/ It's a software bug with Kindle 3 (Kindles 2 and DX are not affected) and I cannot fix it. Please send complains to Amazon support (I have done so several times and so far they haven't fixed it). The good thing is that DVJ-2 is not susceptible to this bug. You can also change the font size and the issue may go away. Last edited by osnova; 12-23-2010 at 01:42 PM.

12-23-2010, 02:33 PM	#209
osnova Kindler of the Flame Posts: 582 Karma: 646016 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: US of A Device: K DX,3,KT,KP,KF, KFHD; Nook C, PRS600, iPad, Xoom, N900, N810, Zaurus	Harry, he is just laughing at this. Last edited by osnova; 12-23-2010 at 02:35 PM.

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neonbible Addict Posts: 202 Karma: 10802 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kindle Paperwhite, iPhone 5, iPad Air, Nexus 7	How do I get this if I am in UK?

12-23-2010, 02:30 PM	#208
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	"Crown copyright" is very, very old. It long predates modern copyright laws. It gave anything created by, or in the name of, the monarch (and that includes the KJV) perpetual protection. It's now in the process of being abolished, but it was given a 50 year "timeout" when the law was changed.