05-15-2009, 10:36 AM | #31 | ||
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In other words the LAW SAYS if all existing ebook editions/releases of a book/work have TTS disabled then you can LEGALLY CIRCUMVENT/HACK the DRM to enable it. Audiobook, by definition, is not an ebook so it does not count ergo this is pure and simple: greed, once again, shot itself in the foot and just gave us a legal reason to hack the DRM of these ebooks. If they indeed turning off TTS then it's the usual stupidity a' la Hollywood-mob at its best - reminds me to the retarded and failed policies of the RIAA/MPAA... Audiobooks are the past - never even understood just who the hell buys them anyway -, they have to let them stand up on their own. If they want to be so anal about TTS then they should just release TTS-enabled editions of ebooks otherwise they are handing over their DRM to the masses for legal hacking. Well, not that they lose too much DRM does not work anyway. Last edited by kamm; 05-15-2009 at 10:43 AM. |
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05-15-2009, 10:36 AM | #32 | |
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You could easily present the argument that DRM is preventing me from doing what would otherwise be fair use. Does that mean I'm adversely affected? It sure sounds like it, but what would a judge say? |
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05-15-2009, 10:41 AM | #33 | |
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05-15-2009, 10:51 AM | #34 | |
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There's a massive difference between a good audiobook and TTS. A good audiobook is a "performance" in every sense of the word. |
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05-15-2009, 11:14 AM | #35 | |
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Put your self in Amazon's shoe. Here is a feature that most consumers don't know exist. And at the moment a good amount don't really care for it. Even if amazon was 100% sure it would win why would it enter a legal battle and pay thousands/millions when there is no consumer demand for it? Now fast forward time and say Bean creates it's own reader that has built in TTS. And the average consumer starts to buy their books over Amazon because they can not only read their books but also listen to them. Then Amazon might revisit it's policy. =X= Last edited by =X=; 05-15-2009 at 11:24 AM. Reason: Cleared up some grammer |
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05-15-2009, 11:25 AM | #36 | |
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TTS is no substitute for an audiobook. |
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05-15-2009, 11:27 AM | #37 | |
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Amazon doesn't have the right to sell audio versions of their ebooks, so they removed that feature. I'm in agreement with the interpretation that says this gives end-users the right to circumvent the DRM, if they are "adversely affected" by the lack of TTS. |
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05-15-2009, 11:31 AM | #38 | |
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05-15-2009, 12:07 PM | #39 | |
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The poorly written parts are "all existing" and "authorized entities". How much of a search do I have to make for all existing ebook formats, and why does it matter (there is only one format for the Kindle)? The authorized entities are organizations that make ebooks available to the visually impaired, but it isn't clear if this still applies if I am not eligible for those ebooks (and how I find out if such an ebook exists). Even so, as I said in another thread: If the Kindle TTS is disabled the copyright holder has explicitly chosen to do so and it is reasonable to assume that all other ebook versions also have TTS disabled. So, absent information about "authorized entities" (who make ebooks available to the visually impaired), this exception does apply at a minimum to removing the DRM for TTS on the Kindle. To me, if you want to use the Kindle'sTTS and are prevented from doing so you are adversely affected. Re-enabling the Kindle's TTS involves leaving the encryption in place and deleting one entry in the metadata. This is minimal intrusion on the DRM, and so far as I can tell entirely legal for personal use in the US. Actually, there is no possibility of non-personal use since the ebook is still tied to a single Kindle by the DRM. |
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05-15-2009, 12:34 PM | #42 | ||
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05-15-2009, 12:37 PM | #43 | |
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With an eBook the user can alternate between reading a book or listing to the text via TTS. This is useful when a reader cannot sit and read a book for numerous reasons, (motion sickness, working out, commuting to work, etc...). you can read a book then continue reading it by turning on the TTS synthesizer. It is also possible to stop and annotate any text while listening to the book via TTS, then re-read that section at a later date. On an entertainment/enjoyment level TTS does not compare to an audiobook. Audio books are just much much better. =X= |
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