Newspaper creator?

CommanderROR · 07-02-2006, 06:56 PM

Hi!

This is a question/Request thread.
I'm looking for a solution for the following problem:

I can get any amount of free and up-to-date news on the web from www.netzzeitung.de for example.
What I would like to do, is take a compiled edition of those news (not headlines, complete articles) every morning and put them on my Iliad (once it arrives) for reading during the day.
So far I haven't found any way to do this. All RSS readers I found just show the headlines and then link you to the pages. Some kind of "web-grabber" would work, but it would have to be "routed" through the feed-reader to be useful.

I don't think it would be a techincal problem to make a little program or script that does this, but since I can't even "write" HTML I'm not the right person to decide that...^^

The way I imagine this:

The program acts like an RSS reader. It lets you subscribe to certain newsfeeds, blogs, ...whatever. It then automatically follows the link to the article and loads that as well and makes a local link. All this data then goes to a folder that I can then simply put on my Iliad and use.
You could also try to put the content behind the links into the text directly, thus losing some clarity but gaining compatibility for devices that don't support links.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

Snappy! · 07-02-2006, 08:03 PM

I think it should be doable. RSS feeds mostly just churns out xml text data with links embedded in them. The linked page can be downloaded while the embedded links be converted to a local relative URL. That should do it.

I could do one in php and put it on a site. But guess it would make more sense to have it on the desktop. Could do one with C++. iLiad reads HTML directly right? So the pages can be stored as a single folder and synced to iLiad using iLiad's tools.

Pitchfork · 07-03-2006, 03:06 AM

@Snappy

I think a certain amount of cleanup would be required on the downloaded HTML, pages as many news services have advertising videos etc. Also we don't really know what HTML elements the iliad can handle. How will it react to javascripts, layers, embedded objects?

Laurens · 07-03-2006, 03:20 AM

Well, Sunrise XP does something along these lines. I'm thinking of creating a version that generates PDF documents. It's still too early to say whether this is feasible. It all depends on the PDF rendering capabilities and speed of the new e-ink devices. We'll have to wait and see how PDF support works out in practice and maybe the bundled web-grabbing software is good enough already.

Henrycat · 07-03-2006, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laurens

Well, Sunrise XP does something along these lines. I'm thinking of creating a version that generates PDF documents. It's still too early to say whether this is feasible. It all depends on the PDF rendering capabilities and speed of the new e-ink devices. We'll have to wait and see how PDF support works out in practice and maybe the bundled web-grabbing software is good enough already.

if you want i can try pdfs and give some feedback of how they work on the Iliad.

Just have to wait till wednesday when my iliad is returned

CommanderROR · 07-03-2006, 06:29 AM

ts ts ts...you shouldn't give you Iliad away all the time...I know i won't give mine away...^^

Henrycat · 07-03-2006, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CommanderROR

ts ts ts...you shouldn't give you Iliad away all the time...I know i won't give mine away...^^

I'm just helping spread the word.

I'm just glad Alex finally followed my advice and gave everyone a chance to order the Iliad, has long has they acknoledge the state of the device OS at the time

MatYadabyte · 07-03-2006, 11:51 AM

Hi Commander

If you want to help us test it, we can get NewsRaider working on Iliad. As you know it downlaods the sources so I guess we would just need to transfer a compiled HTML file to the device?

Let me know if that sounds interesting,

Mat

ps www.newsraider.com

Laurens · 07-03-2006, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henrycat

if you want i can try pdfs and give some feedback of how they work on the Iliad.

Thanks for the offer, but it's going to be at least several months before I'll get started on it. Hopefully the Sony will be available by then so I can determine the requirements based on the capabilities of both devices. And if the bundled software is good enough, I won't have to put in any effort anyway. We'll see.

07-02-2006, 06:56 PM	#1
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	Newspaper creator? Hi! This is a question/Request thread. I'm looking for a solution for the following problem: I can get any amount of free and up-to-date news on the web from www.netzzeitung.de for example. What I would like to do, is take a compiled edition of those news (not headlines, complete articles) every morning and put them on my Iliad (once it arrives) for reading during the day. So far I haven't found any way to do this. All RSS readers I found just show the headlines and then link you to the pages. Some kind of "web-grabber" would work, but it would have to be "routed" through the feed-reader to be useful. I don't think it would be a techincal problem to make a little program or script that does this, but since I can't even "write" HTML I'm not the right person to decide that...^^ The way I imagine this: The program acts like an RSS reader. It lets you subscribe to certain newsfeeds, blogs, ...whatever. It then automatically follows the link to the article and loads that as well and makes a local link. All this data then goes to a folder that I can then simply put on my Iliad and use. You could also try to put the content behind the links into the text directly, thus losing some clarity but gaining compatibility for devices that don't support links. Any ideas? Thanks.

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07-02-2006, 08:03 PM	#2
Snappy! Addict Posts: 260 Karma: 4256 Join Date: Feb 2006 Device: SHARP Zaurus C1000	I think it should be doable. RSS feeds mostly just churns out xml text data with links embedded in them. The linked page can be downloaded while the embedded links be converted to a local relative URL. That should do it. I could do one in php and put it on a site. But guess it would make more sense to have it on the desktop. Could do one with C++. iLiad reads HTML directly right? So the pages can be stored as a single folder and synced to iLiad using iLiad's tools.

07-03-2006, 03:06 AM	#3
Pitchfork Connoisseur Posts: 98 Karma: 31 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Spain Device: Iliad/Ipaq 6340	@Snappy I think a certain amount of cleanup would be required on the downloaded HTML, pages as many news services have advertising videos etc. Also we don't really know what HTML elements the iliad can handle. How will it react to javascripts, layers, embedded objects?

07-03-2006, 03:20 AM	#4
Laurens Jah Blessed Posts: 1,295 Karma: 1373 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Netherlands Device: iPod Touch	Well, Sunrise XP does something along these lines. I'm thinking of creating a version that generates PDF documents. It's still too early to say whether this is feasible. It all depends on the PDF rendering capabilities and speed of the new e-ink devices. We'll have to wait and see how PDF support works out in practice and maybe the bundled web-grabbing software is good enough already.

07-03-2006, 06:29 AM	#6
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	ts ts ts...you shouldn't give you Iliad away all the time...I know i won't give mine away...^^

07-03-2006, 11:51 AM	#8
MatYadabyte Zealot Posts: 111 Karma: 1013536 Join Date: Aug 2005	Hi Commander If you want to help us test it, we can get NewsRaider working on Iliad. As you know it downlaods the sources so I guess we would just need to transfer a compiled HTML file to the device? Let me know if that sounds interesting, Mat ps www.newsraider.com

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