Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Readers > Amazon Kindle

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-15-2018, 04:11 PM   #16
binaryhermit
Guru
binaryhermit ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.binaryhermit ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.binaryhermit ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.binaryhermit ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.binaryhermit ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.binaryhermit ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.binaryhermit ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.binaryhermit ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.binaryhermit ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.binaryhermit ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.binaryhermit ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
binaryhermit's Avatar
 
Posts: 687
Karma: 1821836
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Lockport, IL
Device: Kindle Paperwhite 3rd gen, Kindle Keyboard with 3g
If it's just kfx drm, unless/until Amazon starts providing USB downloads in kfx format, it doesn't really matter.
binaryhermit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2018, 07:23 PM   #17
j.p.s
Wizard
j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 2,098
Karma: 35109951
Join Date: Apr 2011
Device: pb360
Quote:
Originally Posted by binaryhermit View Post
If it's just kfx drm, unless/until Amazon starts providing USB downloads in kfx format, it doesn't really matter.
Even if they do that, those that keep a kindle registered that doesn't support KFX will still be pretty much OK.
j.p.s is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 12-15-2018, 10:49 PM   #18
jhowell
Wizard
jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
jhowell's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,840
Karma: 26152793
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Florida
Device: Oasis 2, Fire, iPad Air 2, Nexus 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by j.p.s View Post
Even if they do that, those that keep a kindle registered that doesn't support KFX will still be pretty much OK.
I think that the biggest concern is that Amazon might make more books only available in KFX format. That is true now for Arabic and Indian language books.

If they made more newly published books be KFX only then it would be difficult to avoid. At some point they may decide to cut off the older devices from the latest books if they really become serious about enforcing DRM.

I doubt that will happen, but I am staying alert to signs of where Amazon might be heading.

Last edited by jhowell; 12-15-2018 at 10:53 PM.
jhowell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2018, 11:18 PM   #19
j.p.s
Wizard
j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 2,098
Karma: 35109951
Join Date: Apr 2011
Device: pb360
I agree that the long term trend does not look good.
j.p.s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2018, 09:11 AM   #20
jhowell
Wizard
jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
jhowell's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,840
Karma: 26152793
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Florida
Device: Oasis 2, Fire, iPad Air 2, Nexus 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by j.p.s View Post
I agree that the long term trend does not look good.
I just wanted to add that the choice may be publisher-driven.

Amazon may be tired of receiving complaints from some publishers about the ineffectiveness of their DRM. They might in the future allow publishers who want stronger DRM to have their books only be made available in KFX format. That would cut them off from access to customers with older devices, but some publishers may believe that it's worth it. Publishers of expensive school textbooks, for example.
jhowell is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 12-16-2018, 09:36 AM   #21
HarryT
eBook Enthusiast
HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
HarryT's Avatar
 
Posts: 85,479
Karma: 82345520
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by j.p.s View Post
I agree that the long term trend does not look good.
It would be a change which would be completely unnoticed by the overwhelming majority of Kindle users, who buy books at Amazon and read on a Kindle device or app. People who want to convert formats are probably an infinitesimal minority of Amazon's customer base, and I doubt that their wishes have any bearing on the commercial decisions Amazon make about bookselling. Amazon will do whatever they feel is in their best commercial interests.
HarryT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2018, 07:48 PM   #22
barryem
Wizard
barryem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.barryem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.barryem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.barryem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.barryem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.barryem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.barryem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.barryem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.barryem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.barryem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.barryem ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
barryem's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,142
Karma: 41400000
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Arkansas
Device: Paperwhite 4
I have a friend with the original Kindle. It's been at least a year since I helped him put books on it. The 3G, of course, doesn't work since Amazon changed that. But we were able to buy him some books, download them and transfer it to that Kindle.

I don't know that that still would work but my guess is that it would. Amazon has been real good so far about making sure their books work on old devices. Changing everything to a new DRM or format would end that. My guess is that even though there aren't that many older devices around there are enough that it could turn into a gigantic support problem for Amazon.

I'm just guessing but I'd be surprised if that happened in the foreseeable future.

Barry
barryem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2018, 11:14 AM   #23
TheSmitty
Connoisseur
TheSmitty ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TheSmitty ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TheSmitty ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TheSmitty ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TheSmitty ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TheSmitty ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TheSmitty ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TheSmitty ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TheSmitty ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TheSmitty ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TheSmitty ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
TheSmitty's Avatar
 
Posts: 76
Karma: 1124844
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: DFW, TX area
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Air 2, iPhone Xs Max
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarryT View Post
It would be a change which would be completely unnoticed by the overwhelming majority of Kindle users, who buy books at Amazon and read on a Kindle device or app. People who want to convert formats are probably an infinitesimal minority of Amazon's customer base, and I doubt that their wishes have any bearing on the commercial decisions Amazon make about bookselling. Amazon will do whatever they feel is in their best commercial interests.
I am curious what other book vendors you use that you can use Calibre (ie remove DRM as necessary) and use on your Kindle?

thanks
TheSmitty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2018, 11:55 AM   #24
HarryT
eBook Enthusiast
HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
HarryT's Avatar
 
Posts: 85,479
Karma: 82345520
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSmitty View Post
I am curious what other book vendors you use that you can use Calibre (ie remove DRM as necessary) and use on your Kindle?

thanks
The main non-Amazon retailers I buy from are Baen and Kobo.
HarryT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2018, 01:44 AM   #25
dpk
Member
dpk began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 14
Karma: 10
Join Date: Dec 2018
Device: kindle paperwhite
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElspethB View Post
I was hoping this update would fix the problem of disappearing books introduced with 5.10.1. Unfortunately, after updating my Voyage, I still have the issue of books not showing up when I switch from sorting by Recent to Author in list view. So frustrating! The books are still on the Voyage, just not showing up in various views.

I de-DRM all my books via Calibre and Apprentice Alf and sideload via USB. Not sure if that makes any difference. This never happened before 5.10.1.
@ElspethB


Can you please help sharing how you do de-DRM? Step by step guide would be helpful as I'm a novice calibre user. Thanks many for the help!
dpk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2018, 02:09 AM   #26
HarryT
eBook Enthusiast
HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
HarryT's Avatar
 
Posts: 85,479
Karma: 82345520
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by dpk View Post
@ElspethB


Can you please help sharing how you do de-DRM? Step by step guide would be helpful as I'm a novice calibre user. Thanks many for the help!
Our site rules prohibit providing such information. You’ll find it at Apprentice Alf’s Blog.
HarryT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2018, 02:12 AM   #27
sakurako
Junior Member
sakurako began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 8
Karma: 10
Join Date: Nov 2018
Device: kindle paperwhite 4
I do really love the updating as I can enjoy all new features of my Kindle books, but I'm really frustrated when I failed to remove the DRM from my Kindle Paperwhite 4 device.
sakurako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2018, 02:30 AM   #28
sakurako
Junior Member
sakurako began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 8
Karma: 10
Join Date: Nov 2018
Device: kindle paperwhite 4
I'm curious about the new KFX format and new DRM too.

It seems like Amazon has unofficially released their new technology of the KFX books. Now nobody can help remove the DRM from Kindle for PC/Mac 1.25 and Kindle Firmware 5.10.2.
sakurako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2018, 09:39 AM   #29
Pyjam
Connoisseur
Pyjam knows the difference between 'who' and 'whom'Pyjam knows the difference between 'who' and 'whom'Pyjam knows the difference between 'who' and 'whom'Pyjam knows the difference between 'who' and 'whom'Pyjam knows the difference between 'who' and 'whom'Pyjam knows the difference between 'who' and 'whom'Pyjam knows the difference between 'who' and 'whom'Pyjam knows the difference between 'who' and 'whom'Pyjam knows the difference between 'who' and 'whom'Pyjam knows the difference between 'who' and 'whom'Pyjam knows the difference between 'who' and 'whom'
 
Posts: 98
Karma: 10000
Join Date: Aug 2015
Device: Kindle Voyage
For the french version, in the table of contents, the word "Couverture" (cover) has been changed for "Étui" (case). Is it the same for the english version?
Pyjam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2018, 04:32 AM   #30
akikara
Enthusiast
akikara began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 30
Karma: 10
Join Date: May 2013
Device: Kindle Touch
Quote:
Originally Posted by rioachim View Post
Now live for all devices except Oasis1 and PW3 (without anything actually new):

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...deId=200529680
I have Kindle Touch (4th Generation). Can I apply this firmware?
akikara is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[Kindle 3G] No update by OTA since last firmware update THE DBX KOReader 0 07-01-2018 12:33 PM
Firmware Update Kindle 3 - Firmware update kool Amazon Kindle 89 09-14-2010 02:41 AM
Firmware Update Can't update my Kindle from 2.1.1 to firmware 2.3 gammarayburst Amazon Kindle 3 05-15-2010 09:57 AM
Firmware Update Kindle firmware update 2.3.3 available davem2bits Amazon Kindle 75 04-01-2010 11:26 AM
next kindle firmware update crionox Amazon Kindle 1 07-14-2008 06:20 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:57 AM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.