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Sirtel · 10-05-2021, 04:28 AM

I'm not going to buy the Sage. Too heavy and no ergonomic shape anymore. And I don't need the new Libra, which also has lost the thinner screen part.

Instead I'll probably buy the Forma.

rcentros · 10-05-2021, 04:30 AM

And they've put the switches on the back again. Just realized that. I really like that on the Voyage and Aura 2. The worst place for a switch (in my opinion) is on the bottom. (I also like the Aura HD and Nook Glowlight and the pre-Kobo Tolinos because they had the switches on the top edge.)

Deobulakenyo · 10-05-2021, 04:46 AM

It is weird that the libra 2 has a 1500mah battery while the sage has 1200mah.

JSWolf · 10-05-2021, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

I'm not going to buy the Sage. Too heavy and no ergonomic shape anymore. And I don't need the new Libra, which also has lost the thinner screen part.

Instead I'll probably buy the Forma.

I'm sorry, but the Forma shape is not ergonomic. It's just silly with the bent bit. The Sage is more flat which is a better shape for holding.

JSWolf · 10-05-2021, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Deobulakenyo

It is weird that the libra 2 has a 1500mah battery while the sage has 1200mah.

I agree. The battery for the Sage should be at least 1600mah.

JSWolf · 10-05-2021, 04:54 AM

Sorry Amazon. The PW5 is too little too late. Once again Kobo outdoes Amazon.

mezzanine · 10-05-2021, 05:03 AM

I guess Im the only one super disappointed with this release. The one hypothetical improvement is the buttons, and hopefully the screen lighting of the Sage is better than the Forma, but other than that its almost like a practical joke.

20% heavier is not a marginal difference. Now I can use my ereader for audiobooks, which is a completely useless upgrade for the vast majority of us who use ereaders exclusively for reading and own phones. Add a stylus for the Sage, again diluting what is a specialized device away from its core competency. Theres a whole market for notetaking e-ink devices, you just released one, Kobo.

Sorry, but if I was an investor in Kobo this product launch would concern me. It really bugs me because I was hoping for a good answer to the obviously improved kindle and have been waiting to upgrade.

If the reviews come back glowingly positive about the screen uniformity of the Sage and the buttons are oasis quality, Ill re-evaluate my first impression, but considering the slow release schedule of ereaders, it feels to me like Kobo has actually gone backwards and the Forma was a plagued device three years ago at the top end.

rcentros · 10-05-2021, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Sorry Amazon. The PW5 is too little too late. Once again Kobo outdoes Amazon.

Honestly, I like the shape and size of the Kindle Paperwhite 5 better. Though I'm not in the market for either. I'm still holding out for a 6.8" PocketBook.

JSWolf · 10-05-2021, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kyôdai

Some of the changes I noticed so far:

- Carta 1200 Display (faster, better contrast)
- 32 GB storage
- Bluetooth
- Audiobook support
- USB-C
- Increased weight (Libra 2: 215g instead of 192g, Sage: 241g instead of 197g)
- Official Dark Mode for the Libra
- Stylus support for the Sage

The Sage has a 1.8GHz quad-core processor, bluetooth for audiobooks, USB-C port, IPX8 waterproofing, and WiFi 802.11 ac/b/g/n (dual-band).

JSWolf · 10-05-2021, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rcentros

Honestly, I like the shape and size of the Kindle Paperwhite 5 better. Though I'm not in the market for either. I'm still holding out for a 6.8" PocketBook.

A 6.8" pocketbook would be too small to hold your stuff. Try putting in your phone, wallet, Reader and your either done or overloaded.

mezzanine · 10-05-2021, 05:29 AM

Another potential downside to the Sage is the additional power draw of the stylus capability on a 1200ma battery. I imagine people will go bonkers about the move to USB-C, a feature I couldnt care less about.

Goes to show you the different priorities of different consumers. There will be a lot of people psyched about the Sage as the new flagship, while for me its going to force me to the Forma or (more likely) the new kindle. Kobo must have done their market research and concluded this is what their customers want. I may end up waiting for the new Oasis and pray that its 8-inch. Doubt it will be, though.

rcentros · 10-05-2021, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The Sage has a 1.8GHz quad-core processor, bluetooth for audiobooks, USB-C port, IPX8 waterproofing, and WiFi 802.11 ac/b/g/n (dual-band).

I think if I was in the market for a "square" style Kobo reader, the weight might be the deciding factor for me. 192 grams is really nice for a 7" reader. 197 grams is really good for an 8" reader — though the 7.8" PocketBook InkPad 3 at 210 grams is not too far off. The Sage is almost as heavy as my Tolino Epos, which I consider too heavy for comfortable reading.

Sirtel · 10-05-2021, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I'm sorry, but the Forma shape is not ergonomic. It's just silly with the bent bit. The Sage is more flat which is a better shape for holding.

That's your opinion. Mine is the exact opposite.

Deobulakenyo · 10-05-2021, 05:33 AM

is the difference between the eink carta 1000 and 1200 noticeable?

that would be the only incentive i can think of upgrading from libra h2o to libra 2. i do not care much about USB-C and storage space.

though i need to physically see and touch it before i can determine, the buttons location of the libra 2 seemed to be too close to the border/edge of the body.

Sirtel · 10-05-2021, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mezzanine

I guess Im the only one super disappointed with this release. The one hypothetical improvement is the buttons, and hopefully the screen lighting of the Sage is better than the Forma, but other than that its almost like a practical joke.

20% heavier is not a marginal difference. Now I can use my ereader for audiobooks, which is a completely useless upgrade for the vast majority of us who use ereaders exclusively for reading and own phones. Add a stylus for the Sage, again diluting what is a specialized device away from its core competency. Theres a whole market for notetaking e-ink devices, you just released one, Kobo.

I agree with you completely.

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10-05-2021, 04:28 AM	#31
Sirtel Grand Sorcerer Posts: 10,146 Karma: 224760044 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2	I'm not going to buy the Sage. Too heavy and no ergonomic shape anymore. And I don't need the new Libra, which also has lost the thinner screen part. Instead I'll probably buy the Forma.

10-05-2021, 04:30 AM	#32
rcentros eReader Wrangler Posts: 7,443 Karma: 48453105 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boise, ID Device: PB HD3, GL3, Tolino Vision 4, Voyage, Clara HD	And they've put the switches on the back again. Just realized that. I really like that on the Voyage and Aura 2. The worst place for a switch (in my opinion) is on the bottom. (I also like the Aura HD and Nook Glowlight and the pre-Kobo Tolinos because they had the switches on the top edge.)

10-05-2021, 04:46 AM	#33
Deobulakenyo Guru Posts: 703 Karma: 2153490 Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Stupid Philippines Device: Kobo Libra 2, Boyue Likebook P78	It is weird that the libra 2 has a 1500mah battery while the sage has 1200mah.

10-05-2021, 04:54 AM	#36
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 74,015 Karma: 129333114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Sorry Amazon. The PW5 is too little too late. Once again Kobo outdoes Amazon.

10-05-2021, 05:03 AM	#37
mezzanine Groupie Posts: 190 Karma: 3551508 Join Date: May 2017 Device: KA1, Clara, Aura HD	I guess Im the only one super disappointed with this release. The one hypothetical improvement is the buttons, and hopefully the screen lighting of the Sage is better than the Forma, but other than that its almost like a practical joke. 20% heavier is not a marginal difference. Now I can use my ereader for audiobooks, which is a completely useless upgrade for the vast majority of us who use ereaders exclusively for reading and own phones. Add a stylus for the Sage, again diluting what is a specialized device away from its core competency. Theres a whole market for notetaking e-ink devices, you just released one, Kobo. Sorry, but if I was an investor in Kobo this product launch would concern me. It really bugs me because I was hoping for a good answer to the obviously improved kindle and have been waiting to upgrade. If the reviews come back glowingly positive about the screen uniformity of the Sage and the buttons are oasis quality, Ill re-evaluate my first impression, but considering the slow release schedule of ereaders, it feels to me like Kobo has actually gone backwards and the Forma was a plagued device three years ago at the top end.

10-05-2021, 05:29 AM	#41
mezzanine Groupie Posts: 190 Karma: 3551508 Join Date: May 2017 Device: KA1, Clara, Aura HD	Another potential downside to the Sage is the additional power draw of the stylus capability on a 1200ma battery. I imagine people will go bonkers about the move to USB-C, a feature I couldnt care less about. Goes to show you the different priorities of different consumers. There will be a lot of people psyched about the Sage as the new flagship, while for me its going to force me to the Forma or (more likely) the new kindle. Kobo must have done their market research and concluded this is what their customers want. I may end up waiting for the new Oasis and pray that its 8-inch. Doubt it will be, though.

10-05-2021, 05:33 AM	#44
Deobulakenyo Guru Posts: 703 Karma: 2153490 Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Stupid Philippines Device: Kobo Libra 2, Boyue Likebook P78	is the difference between the eink carta 1000 and 1200 noticeable? that would be the only incentive i can think of upgrading from libra h2o to libra 2. i do not care much about USB-C and storage space. though i need to physically see and touch it before i can determine, the buttons location of the libra 2 seemed to be too close to the border/edge of the body.

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