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Old 11-19-2021, 08:15 AM   #751
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It's also a question of how much current just having WiFi on takes too.

I took a peek at the internet addresses used in (Poke3 3.1) KCB.apk. Probably most of them are things that get used under your command. The 192.168 stuff appears to be Onyx test servers.
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119.23.143.188/
119.23.143.188/api/
140.143.24.126/
140.143.24.126/api/
140.143.24.126/generate_204
192.168.0.64:9000
192.168.0.64:9000/api/1
192.168.11.104:8082
192.168.11.111/api/1/
192.168.11.145:3000/
alog.umeng.com/app_logs
alog.umengcloud.com/app_logs
api.500px.com/v1/oauth/access_token
api.500px.com/v1/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
api.500px.com/v1/oauth/request_token
api.dropbox.com/1/oauth/access_token
api.dropbox.com/1/oauth/request_token
api.freelancer.com/RequestAccessToken/requestAccessToken.xml?
api.freelancer.com/RequestRequestToken/requestRequestToken.xml
api.getglue.com/oauth/access_token
api.getglue.com/oauth/request_token
api.imgur.com/oauth/access_token
api.imgur.com/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
api.imgur.com/oauth/request_token
api.kaixin001.com/oauth/access_token
api.kaixin001.com/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
api.kaixin001.com/oauth/request_token
api.kaixin001.com/oauth2/access_token?grant_type=authorization_code
api.kaixin001.com/oauth2/authorize?client_id=%s&redirect_uri=%s&response_type=code
api.kaixin001.com/oauth2/authorize?client_id=%s&redirect_uri=%s&response_type=code&scope=%s
api.linkedin.com/uas/oauth/accessToken
api.linkedin.com/uas/oauth/authenticate?oauth_token=%s
api.linkedin.com/uas/oauth/requestToken
api.linkedin.com/uas/oauth/requestToken?scope=
api.login.yahoo.com/oauth/v2/get_request_token
api.login.yahoo.com/oauth/v2/get_token
api.login.yahoo.com/oauth/v2/request_auth?oauth_token=%s
api.meetup.com/oauth/access/
api.meetup.com/oauth/request/
api.mendeley.com/oauth/access_token/
api.mendeley.com/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
api.mendeley.com/oauth/request_token/
api.netprospex.com/1.0/oauth/access-token
api.netprospex.com/1.0/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
api.netprospex.com/1.0/oauth/request-token
api.sandbox.freelancer.com/RequestAccessToken/requestAccessToken.xml?
api.sandbox.freelancer.com/RequestRequestToken/requestRequestToken.xml
api.skyrock.com/v2
api.skyrock.com/v2/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
api.skyrock.com/v2/oauth/initiate
api.skyrock.com/v2/oauth/token
api.t.163.com/oauth/access_token
api.t.163.com/oauth/authenticate?oauth_token=%s
api.t.163.com/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
api.t.163.com/oauth/request_token
api.t.sina.com.cn/oauth/access_token
api.t.sina.com.cn/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
api.t.sina.com.cn/oauth/request_token
api.t.sohu.com/oauth/access_token
api.t.sohu.com/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
api.t.sohu.com/oauth/request_token
api.twitter.com/oauth/access_token
api.twitter.com/oauth/authenticate?oauth_token=%s
api.twitter.com/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
api.twitter.com/oauth/request_token
api.vkontakte.ru/oauth/access_token
api.weibo.com/oauth2/access_token?grant_type=authorization_code
api.weibo.com/oauth2/authorize?client_id=%s&redirect_uri=%s&response_type=code
api.weibo.com/oauth2/authorize?client_id=%s&redirect_uri=%s&response_type=code&scope=%s
api.weixin.qq.com/sns/oauth2/access_token
api.weixin.qq.com/sns/userinfo
api.xing.com/v1/access_token
api.xing.com/v1/authorize?oauth_token=%s
api.xing.com/v1/request_token
apis.live.net/v5.0
app.yinxiang.com
auth.aweber.com/1.0/oauth/access_token
auth.aweber.com/1.0/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
auth.aweber.com/1.0/oauth/request_token
beta-wlmonitr.m.jd.com/
beta-wlmonitr.m.jd.com/online_report
beta-wlogin.jd.co.th/
beta-wlogin.m.jd.com/
beta-wlogin.m.jd.com/cgi-bin/wlogin/
boox.com/login?code
ccf.m.jd.care/loginconfig
ccf.m.jd.com/loginconfig
clients1.google.com/generate_204
clients3.google.com/generate_204
cmnsguider.yunos.com:443/genDeviceToken
connect.rom.miui.com/generate_204
connectivitycheck.android.com/generate_204
connectivitycheck.gstatic.com/generate_204
data.onyx-international.cn
data.onyx-international.cn/api/
data.onyx-international.cn:8001
data.onyx-international.cn:8001/api/
dev.onyx-international.cn
dev.onyx-international.cn/
dev.onyx-international.cn/#pay
dev.onyx-international.cn/api/1/
dev.send2boox.com
dev.send2boox.com/api/1/
dev.zxxk.com/api/
digg.com/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
ebookvn.akishop.vn
eink-api.jd.com/eink/api/
en-data.onyx-international.cn
en-data.onyx-international.cn/api/
en-log.onyx-international.cn
en-log.onyx-international.cn/api/
foursquare.com/oauth/access_token
foursquare.com/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
foursquare.com/oauth/request_token
foursquare.com/oauth2/access_token?grant_type=authorization_code
foursquare.com/oauth2/authenticate?client_id=%s&response_type=code&redirect_uri=%s
g.cn/generate_204
getglue.com/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
github.com/lingochamp/FileDownloader/wiki/filedownloader.properties
github.com/mikepenz/FastAdapter/blob/develop/library-core/src/main/java/com/mikepenz/fastadapter/i
gomiso.com/oauth/access_token
gomiso.com/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
gomiso.com/oauth/request_token
graph.facebook.com/oauth/access_token
graph.renren.com/oauth/authorize?client_id=%s&redirect_uri=%s&response_type=code
graph.renren.com/oauth/authorize?client_id=%s&redirect_uri=%s&response_type=code&scope=%s
graph.renren.com/oauth/token?grant_type=authorization_code
id.sapo.pt/oauth/access_token
id.sapo.pt/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
id.sapo.pt/oauth/request_token
image.cnamedomain.com\'!
img10.360buyimg.com/n12/s350x350_
index1.boox.com
index1.send2boox.com
index2.boox.com
index2.send2boox.com
index3.boox.com
index3.send2boox.com
index4.boox.com
index4.send2boox.com
index5.boox.com
index5.send2boox.com
issuetracker.google.com/issues/116541301 for details of why this parameter is not defined as DataB
jdread-api.jd.com/faq
localhost/
log.onyx-international.cn
log.onyx-international.cn/api/
log.umsns.com/
log.umsns.com/share/api/
login.live.com/
login.live.com/oauth20_authorize.srf
login.live.com/oauth20_authorize.srf?client_id=%s&redirect_uri=%s&response_type=code
login.live.com/oauth20_authorize.srf?client_id=%s&redirect_uri=%s&response_type=code&scope=%s
login.live.com/oauth20_desktop.srf
login.live.com/oauth20_logout.srf
login.live.com/oauth20_token.srf
login.live.com/oauth20_token.srf?grant_type=authorization_code
long.open.weixin.qq.com/connect/l/qrconnect?f=json&uuid=%s
mns.aliyuncs.com/doc/v1
mns.cn-****.aliyuncs.com\'!
mta.oa.com/
mta.qq.com/ or mta.oa.com/
note.youdao.com/
note.youdao.com/oauth/authorize2
note.youdao.com\>
oauth.constantcontact.com/ws/oauth/access_token
oauth.constantcontact.com/ws/oauth/confirm_access?oauth_token=%s
oauth.constantcontact.com/ws/oauth/request_token
oauth.vk.com/authorize?client_id=%s&redirect_uri=%s&response_type=code
oauth2.constantcontact.com/oauth2/oauth/siteowner/authorize?client_id=%s&response_type=code&redire
oauth2.constantcontact.com/oauth2/oauth/token?grant_type=authorization_code
one.ubuntu.com/oauth/access/
one.ubuntu.com/oauth/authorize/?oauth_token=%s
one.ubuntu.com/oauth/request/
onyx-log-collection-us.onyx-international.com
onyx-log-collection.onyx-international.cn
open.e.189.cn/openapi/networkauth/preGetMobile.do
open.t.qq.com/cgi-bin/access_token
open.t.qq.com/cgi-bin/authorize?oauth_token=%s
open.t.qq.com/cgi-bin/request_token
open.weixin.qq.com
open.weixin.qq.com/connect/sdk/qrconnect?appid=%s&noncestr=%s&timestamp=%s&scope=%s&signature=%s
openapi.lovefilm.com/oauth/access_token
openapi.lovefilm.com/oauth/request_token
oss-cn-****.aliyuncs.com\',or your cname like \'image.cnamedomain.com\'!
oss-cn-hangzhou.aliyuncs.com
pingma.qq.com:80/mstat/report
push.boox.com
push.boox.com/
push.boox.com/api/1/
push.boox.com/eink/api/
sandbox.evernote.com
schemas.android.com/apk/res/android
secure.viadeo.com/oauth-provider/access_token2?grant_type=authorization_code
secure.viadeo.com/oauth-provider/authorize2?client_id=%s&redirect_uri=%s&response_type=code
secure.viadeo.com/oauth-provider/authorize2?client_id=%s&redirect_uri=%s&response_type=code&scope=
send2boox.com
send2boox.com/api/1/
services.digg.com/oauth/
services.digg.com/oauth/access_token
services.digg.com/oauth/request_token
shop.onyx-international.cn
shop.onyx-international.cn/
shop.onyx-international.cn/api/1/
shop.onyx-international.cn/api/1/oauth/init/wechat?appId=50ed40debbdc4bb1bfdddcd4791d862c
shop.onyx-international.cn/api/1/passport/wechat/bind
shop.onyx-international.cn/api/1/passport/wechat?appId=50ed40debbdc4bb1bfdddcd4791d862c
shop.onyx-international.cn/api/1/passport/wechatBind
store.onyx-international.com:9000
store.onyx-international.com:9000/api/1/
test-eink.jd.com/eink/api/
test.onyx-international.cn:8088/
trello.com/1/OAuthAuthorizeToken?oauth_token=%s
trello.com/1/OAuthGetAccessToken
trello.com/1/OAuthGetRequestToken
uop.umeng.com
vimeo.com/oauth/access_token
vimeo.com/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
vimeo.com/oauth/request_token
wlmonitor.jd.co.th/
wlmonitor.jd.co.th/login_report
wlmonitor.m.jd.com/
wlmonitor.m.jd.com/login_report
wlmonitor.m.jd.com/online_report
wlmonitorint.m.jd.care/
wlogin.jd.co.th/
wlogin.m.jd.com/
wlogin.m.jd.com/cgi-bin/wlogin/
www.android.com/
www.dropbox.com/1/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=
www.dropbox.com/upgrade?oqa=upeaoq
www.evernote.com
www.facebook.com/dialog/oauth?client_id=%s&redirect_uri=%s
www.facebook.com/dialog/oauth?client_id=%s&redirect_uri=%s&scope=%s
www.flickr.com/services/oauth/access_token
www.flickr.com/services/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=
www.flickr.com/services/oauth/request_token
www.freelancer.com/users/api-token/auth.php?oauth_token=%s
www.google.com/accounts/OAuthAuthorizeToken?oauth_token=%s
www.google.com/accounts/OAuthGetAccessToken
www.google.com/accounts/OAuthGetRequestToken
www.google.com/android/uncertified/
www.lovefilm.com/activate?oauth_token=%s
www.meetup.com/authenticate?oauth_token=%s
www.onenote.com/
www.onyx-international.com/
www.plurk.com/OAuth/access_token
www.plurk.com/OAuth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
www.plurk.com/OAuth/request_token
www.plurk.com/m/authorize?oauth_token=%s
www.sandbox.freelancer.com/users/api-token/auth.php
www.sandbox.freelancer.com/users/api-token/auth.php?oauth_token=%s
www.tumblr.com/oauth/access_token
www.tumblr.com/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
www.tumblr.com/oauth/request_token
www.yammer.com/oauth/access_token
www.yammer.com/oauth/authorize?oauth_token=%s
www.yammer.com/oauth/request_token
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Old 11-20-2021, 06:47 AM   #752
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I use philosophical and intellectual approaches (like Edward Snowden, Alexander Bard, Jaron Lanier etc.) to keep myself away from any paranoia regarding the shadowy data collection from virtually all sides when using internet wired electronical devices. Practically I try to implement everything that a simple user can do trying to corrupt the data collected. I see that as a more realistic approach than trying to hide everything. I even made a intellectual construct of a data scrambler: A software that imitates realistic online behaviour when oneself is not online. Potentially if enough people would use such a thing collectors will know and they will also know that the data collected is corrupt and in the end this BS starts collapsing at a bigger scale. Stupid dream of a technical Neanderthal.

Not to be too off topic: With an onyx I would probably create a new google account. That's about all. Could possibly manage to implement my VPN directly through the router. As it is with VPNs it complicates data collection while your not anonym and one does not know anything about the servers that the VPN company uses...everything else is to complicated for me. I have no idea where to even start if I would want to block things via router.

However, power consumption works like: lighted screen>Wi-Fi/internet>software. With the onyx also refresh settings will probably cause more or less drain. I will certainly have Wi-Fi off most of the time and using the onyx without or with very little frontlight on. Wi-Fi just for updates off the device and the few android apps I intend to use (iA writer, NZZ, blinkist and for my disappointment I will also try Adobe DRM app cause I have quite a few DRM E-Books and DeDRM plugin doesn't work on many of them...). At the moment I'm waving between nova air and note air 2. Power-wise the note air 2 seems more reliable + I would also like to use note taking besides typewriting and the nova air is note even A5 format.

All in all I think that for my project Onyx + Bluetooth keyboard is in a lot of ways a better compromise than a Kobo Sage + Freewriter (initial plan) or 13" E-Ink screen + Keyboard + raspberry (cool but to expensive and complicated and less mobile....)

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Old 11-20-2021, 10:04 AM   #753
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Use a Mira or Mira Pro and you will be fine.
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Old 11-21-2021, 07:37 AM   #754
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All in all I think that for my project Onyx + Bluetooth keyboard is in a lot of ways a better compromise than a Kobo Sage + Freewriter (initial plan) or 13" E-Ink screen + Keyboard + raspberry (cool but to expensive and complicated and less mobile....)
I've just purchased another toy, Hisense Q5. I don't use my Max 2 for anything but reading PDFs, because everything else is cumbersome to use. I hope Hisense Q5 will fill another gap, reading web articles (and maybe using a few Android apps). However, I don't think I'll use it as a monitor even though it has HDMI input which actually works as it's a fast LCD.

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Old 11-25-2021, 08:27 AM   #755
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Use a Mira or Mira Pro and you will be fine.
I went with the note air 2 and bt keyboard solution. The note air 2 should arrive tomorrow. Excited to test my approach and the device. A Mira would be to costly especially cause onyx doesn't really have a lot of trust from my side. Still a risky buy but I don't see much alternative at the moment from the competition regarding multi functional E-ink devices...

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I've just purchased another toy, Hisense Q5. I don't use my Max 2 for anything but reading PDFs, because everything else is cumbersome to use. I hope Hisense Q5 will fill another gap, reading web articles (and maybe using a few Android apps). However, I don't think I'll use it as a monitor even though it has HDMI input which actually works as it's a fast LCD.
I see your point. As my kobo started reaching the end of its lifespan this year I researched online and as I tend to be techy I spent quite a lot of time with that research the last 2-3 weeks trying to find out where we are with E-Ink devices. I view it like that: The multi functional/note-taking devices before the 2021 gen were enthusiast devices. With Supernote A5X/6X and Onyx releases from 2021 (I would add the remarkable 2, but remarkable is practically remarkably dead...) we see the first devices outside of the enthusiast level. But consumers are still handed out "Gen 1" devices a long side with enthusiast devices and rather obscure stuff like your Hi sense Q5. A bit the same thing going on as with the first smartphones just on a niche level.

How the development will play out has of course to be seen yet.

With onyx at the moment I guess you just have to narrow down what you want to do and then spend a lot of time setting the device up for it, getting to know it on a deeper level and after that I expect a usable and relatively uncomplicated but still a bit cumbersome experience.

I may describe my findings after some testing here in the forum. Maybe some kind of practical review in form of a little report with the leading Question what happens in day to day use when trying to organize most of private writing in my life with an onyx. Could be interesting for some people and I will do the testing anyway.
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What a coincidence, I've also got an alert form the customs today to pay customs for the package, which I'm going to get tomorrow
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A Mira would be to costly especially cause onyx doesn't really have a lot of trust from my side.

I ordered one and I will see how they will perform.
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Old 12-02-2021, 07:40 AM   #758
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What a coincidence, I've also got an alert form the customs today to pay customs for the package, which I'm going to get tomorrow
I have used it for a couple of days now and I am really satisfied so far. It took me like an afternoon to set it up and work through the OS and approx. two more days to learn the most relevant features of the note taking app and the main features of the neoreader. Now I'm good to go with essentially all common tasks. That was not such a steep learning curve as often mentioned but of course it is a subjective thing...Now I need to find out how this works with the custom dictionary import respectively where do I find some good dictionaries?

The only a bit bigger negative thing so far is that the screen without front-light isn't paper white (as for example with my kobo). It rather looks like recycled unbleached paper. It is OK for me as the rendering itself is really good. Probably not as crispy as with the best readers out there but that's something I at least would just notice in a direct comparison. I already got used to the rather greyish background and with just a little front-light it's almost paper white.

Still waiting for the bluetooth keyboard to arrive so I can start my testing.

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I ordered one and I will see how they will perform.
Interested in my deep guides coming review and dedicated costumer feedback here. It is probably the only serious way to use a PC/MAC with an e-ink screen. Why the possibility is there with the other onyx tablets it's more like a feature because one will just kill the battery of in null time when frequently using the onyx tablets as monitor...that is the second reason besides portability why I go with a bt keyboard instead. In my case it is just for typewriting anyway...
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I have used it for a couple of days now and I am really satisfied so far. It took me like an afternoon to set it up and work through the OS and approx. two more days to learn the most relevant features of the note taking app and the main features of the neoreader. Now I'm good to go with essentially all common tasks. That was not such a steep learning curve as often mentioned but of course it is a subjective thing...Now I need to find out how this works with the custom dictionary import respectively where do I find some good dictionaries?

The only a bit bigger negative thing so far is that the screen without front-light isn't paper white (as for example with my kobo). It rather looks like recycled unbleached paper. It is OK for me as the rendering itself is really good. Probably not as crispy as with the best readers out there but that's something I at least would just notice in a direct comparison. I already got used to the rather greyish background and with just a little front-light it's almost paper white.

Still waiting for the bluetooth keyboard to arrive so I can start my testing.



Interested in my deep guides coming review and dedicated costumer feedback here. It is probably the only serious way to use a PC/MAC with an e-ink screen. Why the possibility is there with the other onyx tablets it's more like a feature because one will just kill the battery of in null time when frequently using the onyx tablets as monitor...that is the second reason besides portability why I go with a bt keyboard instead. In my case it is just for typewriting anyway...

What is your deepguide video address?
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I'm not sure I know what you mean. Probably I should've put it like this: "My Deep Guide". It is a YouTube channel from a guy named Voja. He produces the most thorough and transparent reviews of readers and e-ink devices one could find at the moment. Here you go: My Deep Guide
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If anyone is interested, I posted a short paragraph about my experiences with Hisense Q5 on another thread

Just a note relevant to this thread: Comparing Onyx Max carta to Onyx Max 2, the gray screen was the first thing I noticed, this is nothing comparing again Max 2 to Q5, the latter's screen is definitely metal-gray.
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