01-23-2020, 04:50 AM | #31 | ||
the rook, bossing Never.
Posts: 11,158
Karma: 85874891
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ireland
Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11
|
Quote:
They also cheat authors & publishers because the page read tracking isn't reliable. Remuneration should be per book, not per page. I regularly bring up Amazon's business practices because they are ultimately toxic to publishers, authors and readers. Their aim is complete control of books. They are at 90% of ebooks and in USA over 80% of online paper book sales. An example of lack of regulation by US Government who rarely protect consumers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ions_by_Amazon Last edited by Quoth; 01-23-2020 at 04:56 AM. Reason: Why criticise Amazon. |
||
01-23-2020, 05:04 AM | #32 | |
Wizard
Posts: 4,461
Karma: 429063498
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Mauritius
Device: Kindle Paperwhite 4
|
Quote:
|
|
Advert | |
|
01-23-2020, 05:18 AM | #33 |
Interested Bystander
Posts: 3,725
Karma: 19728152
Join Date: Jun 2008
Device: Note 4, Kobo One
|
Why?
The current system rewards authors who write books people want to read all the way through to the end, and penalises click-bait titles which aren't good enough to get people to continue reading. It also removes the incentives for gaming the system by splitting books up into multiple small titles. Isn't that a good thing? If this had nothing to do with Amazon, say there was an indie authors collective which had set up their own subscription service and paid on the same basis, would you have the same opinion? Last edited by murraypaul; 01-23-2020 at 05:27 AM. |
01-23-2020, 05:41 AM | #34 | |
the rook, bossing Never.
Posts: 11,158
Karma: 85874891
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ireland
Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11
|
Quote:
It's a completely new model by a Monopolist. It's the wrong solution to dishonest publishers/authors publishing "books" as episodes / part works and pretend they are books. There should be word counts. Also better policing of reviews. Amazon product reviews are gamed. It also can affect how people read books and review them. It damages the book as story medium. It's also another attack on privacy and inherently "tricking" people into the parasitical and exploitive subscription model. Obviously subscriptions don't have to be parasitical and exploitive, but it's a fact that most are and are very much more profitable than straight sales. |
|
01-23-2020, 06:07 AM | #35 |
Grand Sorcerer
Posts: 27,549
Karma: 193191846
Join Date: Jan 2010
Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD
|
The relentless and unreasonable hatred of anything Amazon is toxic to normal conversation on Mobileread.
|
Advert | |
|
01-23-2020, 06:14 AM | #36 |
Grand Sorcerer
Posts: 11,732
Karma: 128354696
Join Date: May 2009
Location: 26 kly from Sgr A*
Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000
|
|
01-23-2020, 06:33 AM | #37 | |
Interested Bystander
Posts: 3,725
Karma: 19728152
Join Date: Jun 2008
Device: Note 4, Kobo One
|
Quote:
And as for this: "subscriptions don't have to be parasitical and exploitive, but it's a fact that most are" I disagree, and I think almost everyone else would too. I think your views on Amazon are causing you to seriously lose perspective. So Netflix and Spotify are parasitical and exploitative? The RHS/National Trust/Engligh Heritage are parasitical and exploitative? The unlimited data plan on my phone is parasitical and exploitative? Or are they fine, but they would be bad if Amazon ran them? Last edited by murraypaul; 01-23-2020 at 06:35 AM. |
|
01-23-2020, 01:37 PM | #38 |
Grand Sorcerer
Posts: 5,696
Karma: 20469902
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Lockport, IL
Device: Kindle PW4, Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition
|
Regarding paying by the book, there's a lot of what could be classified as small pamphlets in KU, should those be paid the same as a long-ish novel?
(And IIRC KU used to pay by the read, it led to books being broken down into many parts) |
01-23-2020, 03:16 PM | #39 |
Gentleman and scholar
Posts: 10,990
Karma: 108312789
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Space City, Texas
Device: Clara HD; Nook ST w/Glowlight, (2015) Glowlight Plus, Paperwhite 3
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Penguin Random House Changes Library Lending Model | astrangerhere | News | 26 | 09-19-2018 04:39 PM |
Penguin Random House Unifies E-book Terms for Libraries | AnemicOak | News | 2 | 12-04-2015 11:27 AM |
US DOJ approves Random House / Penguin merger | AnemicOak | News | 26 | 04-05-2013 10:11 PM |
Random House, Penguin May Merge | JoHunt | News | 48 | 10-30-2012 11:46 AM |
Penguin to publish new titles simultaneously as e-books | M.H. | News | 57 | 06-08-2008 02:16 PM |