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As a logical proposition, yours is a schoolboy howler. From memory, the fallacy is formally called something like "shifting the burden of proof". But you can probably look it up under "Fallacies" in Wikipedia or the like. |
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As to whether the absence of copyright stops authors from writing, Dickens and the other great 19th century English writers kept churning out classics despite the fact that their works were "pirated" holus bolus throughout the USA, where copyright protection was either non-existent, minimal, or simply not enforced. Ditto American authors such as Twain despite similar problems with Canadian publishers. I don't say any of them liked it; but they kept writing. |
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Dickens did make a nice income, and only tended to be short of money due to lack of thrift (and willingness to give money to friends and family). For this purpose, Dickens = J.K. Rowlings. Suppose an American on this board was to say that because Rowlings makes so much money already, they aren't going to pay for her books. If someone said that Rowlings is the only author they will pirate, I wouldn't have a super-strong argument against it. But what I think happens next is that they start thinking all authors on the best-seller list are as rich as Dickens, which is far from true. Quote:
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Crikey, Steve!
So we're now saying that copyright results in fewer books. But better books. (It also occurs to me that any drop-off in French Book publishing between 1789-1793 may not be solely attributable to copyright issues, eg the trimming of the aristo market by emigration and decapitation (that'll slow down your reading); the fact that all of the bourgeoisie were busy writing and reading pamphlets and monopolising the printing presses; and the fact that Madame Defarge and her chums stopped reading Mills & Boon while they engaged in more engrossing interactive pursuits). Last edited by Jozawun; 09-27-2012 at 09:44 PM. Reason: Added some |
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Hardly... just thought that we might get equal time here but looks like it's the usual one-sided approach... your position is axiomatic but anything different must be proved by others... love your fallacy of not bothering with the burden of proof...
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What exactly is Jozawun's stated position that needs to be proven? Did I miss it?
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Yes! I read his comments running through the thread and he seems opposed to any statement made without citations but OK with making statements himself equally without citing any evidentiary support... position spread over several posts but I guess I could have read too much into his postings and should maybe just accept them as being fundamental truths whilst doubting all other comments...
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Love your name, too, it certainly sums up your approach to logic. |
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[QUOTE=Jozawun;2239665]First, I've seen this statement before.[QUOTE]
Your ignorance of the subject is not my problem. If you want to argue a subject, you should learn about it first. (I'm not the only one to mention this, in this thread, after all.) |
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