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Interesting view of Amazon through a writer/publisher's eyes
From Teleread: Steve Weber, author/publisher tells his experiences with Amazon
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I look forward to seeing how B&N/Fictionwise operate. |
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We consumers are much to blame for the rise of Amazon's weight. We kept feeding Amazon until it reached the point where it really had no need to care about us, only about itself. It now sits whereever it wants. I, too, am looking forward to seeing how B&N will operate. Rumor has it that it is trying to push non-DRM products as a way to combat Amazon's dominant position. Here's hoping that rumors are true. |
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05-04-2009, 09:30 AM | #3 |
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Wasn't it Amazon who deleted thousands of bad reviews of the game "Spore" written by players pissed off by the awful DRM schema on it?
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It certainly was. I remember when it happened. Censoring reviews is just one more reason that I stopped giving my custom to Amazon.
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Amazon's right; quit whining
Obviously none of you are business people.
Amazon OWNS their website. Amazon has the right to post whatever will help them sell and delete whatever won't. In fact, Amazon has a fiduciary responsibility to their stockholders to do exactly that type of editing. Get over yourself with the censorship wailing. Unless Amazon serves you a Cease & Desist order for the content of a review you've posted on your own personally-owned website, then you have nothing to gripe at Amazon about. But you have no excuse for gouging Amazon for creating a marketing atmosphere that favors Amazon sales on an Amazon website. |
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BTW, I have the right to complain (or whine as you call it) as much as I like about Amazon's practices. I'm not willing to give up my Freedom of Speech for a business practice (is that what you really want?). |
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Of course their tactics are 'biased', that's called marketing. Can you imagine a Chevy website saying: "Best car in class (but you really should consider the Ford too)."
I can't make the huge mental leap on how you find this even remotely 'unfair' or 'wrong'. I think you are bashing Amazon pure and simple for some percieved injustice they've inflicted on you. Of course you have the right to participate in shameless bashing, you should just be honest and admit that's what you're doing. P.S. I had one BAD experience with Buy.com and have participated in the same type of 'I'll never buy from them again' hyperbole that you're spouting here, so I'm not innocent from having done the same. But I know and admit it was bashing based on that horrible customer experience. Dislike Amazon if you want for whatever they did wrong, but this isn't wrong...its business. |
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I cancelled my Amazon account over the gay and lesbian censorship, but there's plenty of other reasons they don't get my custom. This just happens to be one more straw on a camel's back that was broken a long while ago. |
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But you're just being silly if you think Freedom of Speech implies you have the right to post whatever you feel like on a commercial website and think they wouldn't dare edit your comments, even if it was adverse to the very business who owns the website. If you think that Amazon editing your comments is a free speech issue then I'm certain you wouldn't delete a post on your MySpace or Facebook page advertizing a local massage parlor, because even though you own the page, the writer does not want you edit their content. You'd be violating the free speech rights of that poster just like you feel Amazon is violating your free speech rights. |
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I don't like some of Amazon's policies.
I don't own a Kindle and I buy from other sources more often than from Amazon. Amazon makes their choices - I make mine. |
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But claiming a freedom of speech infringement for posting on a business website being edited is NOT the customer's choice. She too can vote with her wallet, but she has no reasonable expectation that Amazon won't take actions to protect their business on their website. Also, I apologize for the misunderstanding, I wasn't calling daffy4u 'silly', I was saying that thinking Amazon editing her review was a valid FoS complaint was 'silly'. Replace with 'ludicrous', 'totally incorrect' or other term if you find silly offensive. Not my intent and I don't want this to devlove to name calling, we're just discussing a business's perogative to manage what it owns. Last edited by pking36330; 05-04-2009 at 01:57 PM. |
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On both Newegg and Amazon i Know not to Mention Other Retailers, or Price in my reviews, I take that as a given. where have you been?
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Amazon's business practices have been ticking me off lately, but in this case I don't have much to quarrel about. As Daffy said, their own rules about what is permissable to say within a review are available on their site, and it looks like they only edited the offending passage in the review. However, I also agree with Daffy that they should still notifying the original poster that they edited his review and why.
As to the article with the author's complaint about Amazon's Print On Demand (POD)requirements, I have to agree with Amazon on that one too. Amazon wants the ability to ship books quickly, therefore they require POD books either be published by them, or through a publisher that will make a few printed books available to Amazon. This way Amazon can ship the book immediately and don't need to wait on a book from a publisher. This sounds reasonable as well. |
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