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Old 04-25-2016, 06:44 AM   #16
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There's a mention on the Amazon forum that there may have been copyright issues. Basically, Conde Nast bought some copyright on old material which they weren't going to republish and sued.

I thought that was about the 2006 (or somewhat near that date) reference to his old Blackmask site concerning the Doc Savage ebooks.
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There's a mention on the Amazon forum that there may have been copyright issues. Basically, Conde Nast bought some copyright on old material which they weren't going to republish and sued.
That would not cause all the related sites to go down. It also doesn't explain why the guy isn't answering email or on Twitter.
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That would not cause all the related sites to go down. It also doesn't explain why the guy isn't answering email or on Twitter.

I agree, although I wonder why - all those years ago - the change from the Blackmask name (and the customers and word-of-mouth concerning that name) and then the change to Munseys.

As a customer way back then, I bought a set of CDs from him, which I still have. Of course, that was before there was any controversy concerning copyright. I had no idea that the Doc Savage titles were in conflict with copyright. This was probably back in 2004/2005 that I bought those CDs.

It's been quite a long time since I last visited Munseys, so I have no idea when it even went down.
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I agree, although I wonder why - all those years ago - the change from the Blackmask name (and the customers and word-of-mouth concerning that name) and then the change to Munseys.

As a customer way back then, I bought a set of CDs from him, which I still have. Of course, that was before there was any controversy concerning copyright. I had no idea that the Doc Savage titles were in conflict with copyright. This was probably back in 2004/2005 that I bought those CDs.

It's been quite a long time since I last visited Munseys, so I have no idea when it even went down.
He was also an erotica and pulp re-publisher (this is how he came into conflict on the Doc Savage titles). As I recall he was using Blackmask and munsey's at the same time he was using Silk Pagoda and other site names.

He was also Olympia Press, for example. That Twitter account ended in May 2015:
https://twitter.com/olympiapress

Note that the site is also down.
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Thanks for the additional info on that, Nate.
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Maybe most of you know this, but you can get detailed information on websites--including ownership--at whois.com, then selecting "whois" on the menu near the top of the page. But, to understand most of the text, you definitely need to know Internet terminology.
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Maybe most of you know this, but you can get detailed information on websites--including ownership--at whois.com, then selecting "whois" on the menu near the top of the page. But, to understand most of the text, you definitely need to know Internet terminology.


That domain name apparently no longer exists:

"The domain munseys.com may be for sale. Click here for details."
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Whois Record ( last updated on 2016-04-25 )
Domain Name: MUNSEYS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 686276279_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.domainsite.com
Registrar URL: http://www.domainsite.com
Updated Date: 2016-04-13T00:56:51Z
Creation Date: 2006-11-27T05:29:13Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2021-11-27T05:29:13Z
Registrar: DomainSite, Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 466
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Whois Agent
Registrant Organization: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Registrant Street: PO Box 639
Registrant City: Kirkland
Registrant State/Province: WA
Registrant Postal Code: 98083
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1 4252740657
Registrant Fax: +1 4259744730
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Admin Organization: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Admin Street: PO Box 639
Admin City: Kirkland
Admin State/Province: WA
Admin Postal Code: 98083
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URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/

Interested in this domain name?
It may be for sale.
http://name.com/domain-offer?d=munseys.com

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Munseys.com is for sale!

The owner of the domain you are researching has it listed for sale.

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Munseys.com is for sale!

The owner of the domain you are researching has it listed for sale.
Sale??? I'm interested. I have a ton bananas and Amazon Coins I can part with (and if I have to, I have a stash of tuna in my prepper bug out kit I can use to sweeten the deal)
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I could find some words for Conde Nast that aren't in the unabridged dictionary. They went after Black Mask before which caused the site to be revamped. Gluttony (whether in food or data) is not becoming.
I so agree; they just want to *hoard* these treasures...?! I'm disgusted.

If I were a dead author, I would want my books to be read, forever.

We are missing out on so much history, research, and lingo!

So; I ended up here, looking for Munsey's. A blog linked me to it, recommending a book called "The Whip Hand".

[request for pirated copies of books deleted]

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Ok, LOUD AND CLEAR - but just so I'm clear: I didn't ask for *pirated copies*, I asked for resources to places where I could find cool old pulp books. OR the books themselves. I was requesting "lingo", and "plot devices" from the Film Noir era.

And yes, I uploaded a PDF - but it's not copyrighted material; there is a newer book, with the same name, that is written by mothers... goes a little something like:
"From a young mother stealing back her child to a disillusioned lover seeking revenge with a potion, from house cleaners contemplating a life of crime to a woman parting ways with Jesus, these are stories of people living on the edge."

That's a totally different "The Whip Hand".

Re: my pdf
"Notice: This Book is published by Historical Books Limited (www.publicdomain.org.uk) as a Public Domain Book, if you have any inquiries, requests or need any help you can just send an email to publications@publicdomain.org.uk This book is found as a public domain and free book based on various online catalogs, if you think there are any problems regarding copyright issues please contact us immediately via DMCA@publicdomain.org.uk"

Anyway, the internet sucks, now.
I don't know how to use forums, and my FIRST TIME POSTING, I get THE WHIP.
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The "Whip Hand" you are referring to is no doubt the one written by W. Franklin Sanders [Charles Willeford], and published by Fawcett Gold Medal in 1961.

This is an important noir novel and Willeford is recognized as an important writer in that genre.

You can BUY the ebook from Amazon.com for $2.49

Here is the link: https://www.amazon.com/Whip-Hand-W-F...=UTF8&qid=&sr=
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The "Whip Hand" you are referring to is no doubt the one written by W. Franklin Sanders [Charles Willeford], and published by Fawcett Gold Medal in 1961.

This is an important noir novel and Willeford is recognized as an important writer in that genre.

You can BUY the ebook from Amazon.com for $2.49

Here is the link: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0096CFXB4/
Your little 'not quite a review' and the sensible price convinced me to buy the book.

Funny that there's the debate about whether sharing the book is copyright violation, but the book is being sold at Amazon using the original Gold Medal cover. I'd bet that that's not quite kosher.

I also wonder if the publisher of this edition actually holds the rights to the book, or just figured nobody would ever notice?
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