Pirate Plots eBook Plunder

Donnageddon · 09-26-2008, 02:25 PM

Avast ye mateys! News from Wired.com

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Peter Sunde, one of the founders of the Pirate Bay, wrote a mysterious blog post today asking for someone in the U.S. to send him an Amazon Kindle, and hinted that he might be working on a new project involving e-books.

I am not sure what this all means, and it appears no one else does either. But if you think you can read the mind of a pirate, read the short article here.

giedre · 09-26-2008, 03:06 PM

Oh my

It sure is hard being honest!

nekokami · 09-26-2008, 03:29 PM

I can think of a couple of things Sunde might be up to. He might be interested in creating an alternative service for the Kindle to connect to that would download ebooks from TPB, or he might be looking at testing a decryption service, or a way for people who don't own a Kindle to buy Kindle books (though I think that last one would be difficult, requiring purchases of multiple Kindles and some shell games using their PIDs). I'm surprised there wasn't more speculation at the Wired site. I guess their readers don't read many ebooks.

pilotbob · 09-26-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nekokami

I can think of a couple of things Sunde might be up to. He might be interested in creating an alternative service for the Kindle to connect to that would download ebooks from TPB, or he might be looking at testing a decryption service, or a way for people who don't own a Kindle to buy Kindle books (though I think that last one would be difficult, requiring purchases of multiple Kindles and some shell games using their PIDs). I'm surprised there wasn't more speculation at the Wired site. I guess their readers don't read many ebooks.

Since it is Pirate Bay... I assume he will do a Feedbooks like download guide and links however the books in his guide will certainly be copyrighted which to Pirate Bay means nothing.

BOb

Alisa · 09-26-2008, 06:20 PM

If I were inclined to download stuff like that to my Kindle, there's no way I'd do it with the Kindle itself over Amazon's network. I'm betting they're going to decrypt books with the Mobipocket de-DRMing scripts and post them DRM-free, probably in multiple formats.

HarryT · 09-27-2008, 05:29 AM

What a dreadful thought

. Doesn't Sweden have any laws to prevent criminals like him from committing such acts?

tompe · 09-27-2008, 05:31 AM

I do not get it why people assume that the pirate bay distribute copyrighted material. They do no do that. People seems to have fallen for propaganda from lobby organizations.

HarryT · 09-27-2008, 05:34 AM

What is it that they do, then, Tommy?

tompe · 09-27-2008, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

What is it that they do, then, Tommy?

You know that. They have a web page with links people put up and they allow all links to stay there. They do not host the actual content.They do not look at links and say that some links is not allowed. Recently somebody put a link to a public document there and they were criticised because they did not remove the link it because the document was hurtful to some people. I though that this was a case were the distribution of a public document was not blocked and well in line with the stated policy.

nekokami · 09-27-2008, 11:12 AM

Interesting analysis of the case tompe is referring to here: http://j-andersson.blogspot.com/2008...irate-bay.html

Trenien · 09-27-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

What a dreadful thought

. Doesn't Sweden have any laws to prevent criminals like him from committing such acts?

Could you please define what acts (dreadful, I'm sure) you are talking about?

Dave Berk · 09-27-2008, 07:10 PM

I don't understand what's the big deal. I thought that commercial ebooks are already available free to anybody who uses the so-called darknet. Is the change in the method of distribution from irc to bitorrent that important?

nekokami · 09-27-2008, 10:14 PM

The speculation (and it is only speculation at this point) is presumably that Sunde may be trying to work on a system that would combine access to unauthorized copies of content with the ease of access provided by the Kindle. At this point, accessing the darknet requires some specialized skills (as well as entailing technological, legal, and plausibly ethical risks).

TadW · 09-29-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Berk

I don't understand what's the big deal. I thought that commercial ebooks are already available free to anybody who uses the so-called darknet. Is the change in the method of distribution from irc to bitorrent that important?

Well, IRC is probably less known to the younger crowd here. Bittorent, on the other hand...

Shaggy · 09-29-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

What a dreadful thought

. Doesn't Sweden have any laws to prevent criminals like him from committing such acts?

You don't really know what the pirate bay does, do you?

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09-26-2008, 03:06 PM	#2
giedre Connoisseur Posts: 84 Karma: 4850 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Carolina Device: Sony 500,505, Kindle, 1150	Oh my It sure is hard being honest!

09-26-2008, 03:29 PM	#3
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	I can think of a couple of things Sunde might be up to. He might be interested in creating an alternative service for the Kindle to connect to that would download ebooks from TPB, or he might be looking at testing a decryption service, or a way for people who don't own a Kindle to buy Kindle books (though I think that last one would be difficult, requiring purchases of multiple Kindles and some shell games using their PIDs). I'm surprised there wasn't more speculation at the Wired site. I guess their readers don't read many ebooks.

09-26-2008, 06:20 PM	#5
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	If I were inclined to download stuff like that to my Kindle, there's no way I'd do it with the Kindle itself over Amazon's network. I'm betting they're going to decrypt books with the Mobipocket de-DRMing scripts and post them DRM-free, probably in multiple formats.

09-27-2008, 05:29 AM	#6
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	What a dreadful thought . Doesn't Sweden have any laws to prevent criminals like him from committing such acts?

09-27-2008, 05:31 AM	#7
tompe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,452 Karma: 7185064 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Linköpng, Sweden Device: Kindle Voyage, Nexus 5, Kindle PW	I do not get it why people assume that the pirate bay distribute copyrighted material. They do no do that. People seems to have fallen for propaganda from lobby organizations.

09-27-2008, 05:34 AM	#8
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	What is it that they do, then, Tommy?

09-27-2008, 11:12 AM	#10
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	Interesting analysis of the case tompe is referring to here: http://j-andersson.blogspot.com/2008...irate-bay.html

09-27-2008, 07:10 PM	#12
Dave Berk Fanatic Posts: 574 Karma: 138556 Join Date: May 2006 Device: PRS505	I don't understand what's the big deal. I thought that commercial ebooks are already available free to anybody who uses the so-called darknet. Is the change in the method of distribution from irc to bitorrent that important?

09-27-2008, 10:14 PM	#13
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	The speculation (and it is only speculation at this point) is presumably that Sunde may be trying to work on a system that would combine access to unauthorized copies of content with the ease of access provided by the Kindle. At this point, accessing the darknet requires some specialized skills (as well as entailing technological, legal, and plausibly ethical risks).

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