07-14-2014, 10:55 PM | #1 | |
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An FYI to Library Paid Borrowers
For those who have a paid membership or are considering one, please make sure you will still have access to Overdrive. My small county library has the following notice posted on their website. It's possible the restriction will spread to the larger more active libraries.
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07-15-2014, 03:19 AM | #2 | |
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07-15-2014, 03:44 AM | #3 |
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I'm surprised the loophole has remained open this long, to be honest.
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Yep. But it's a hole you could drive a truck through in the whole idea of geographical restrictions on ebook distribution.
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07-15-2014, 05:16 AM | #6 |
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What exactly is the loophole?
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07-15-2014, 05:24 AM | #7 |
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The fact that anyone, anywhere in the world, can join a library like the NY public library, and check out ebooks that are supposed to be available only to people in the US. The same applies to libraries in other countries, too, of course, for books that are supposed to only be available in those countries.
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07-15-2014, 09:13 PM | #10 | |
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By the way, British soldiers on American Army bases are allowed to use our collections. Look at all the loopholes that creates as well-read tommies* travel! And it's more than soldiers. The US Army collection is openly available to family members as various as "parent in law" (that would be my wife and I**) or "former spouse family member." (See "Relationship" pull-down menu here.). That makes for another big loophole, since the millions of people in one or another of those relationship categories live in many countries. Also, when we go to Canada, are we supposed to not download a book from our local public library Overdrive collection? If it wasn't for this kind of thread, I wouldn't have a clue that is against a rule (if it really is). Suppose that someone from Britain, vacationing in the US, downloads a James Bond book from their home public library Overdrive collection, despite being in a country where the local rights holder, Amazon Publishing, does not cooperate with public libraries. Amazon should have known that could happen when they bought those rights, so I don't see any unfairness. Right in front of me, I happen to have my daughters's Barnet London Borough Library Membership card. Lucky she doesn't know the PIN, so I'm not tempted to open another loophole I know it's easy to make a bit of fun of the situation. And it's hard to envision a cheap practical way to unify worldwide rights without creating new downsides. ____________________ * I fear this word is ridiculously dated. Is there a new one? ** But don't be jealous. The Army collection isn't large. The US Navy looks better Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 07-15-2014 at 09:17 PM. |
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I also haven't seen that yet.
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07-16-2014, 01:21 AM | #12 |
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Geo-blocking is, imho, an abomination. Whilst technology has created one world market, geo-blocking seeks, in a sense, to turn back the clock. The main beneficiaries are, of course, rights-holders who can leverage the maximum profits from their rights, and businesses who buy the rights to rape and pillage in their particular area without competition. The ones who suffer are of course consumers and of course businesses who would like to compete, and authors and other creators.
I have no problems with companies making profits. However, when technology makes business models obsolete, I don't believe we have any obligation to preserve those business models, particulary with ever more draconian legislation procured by armies of lobbyists. Big publishing, in particular, has extracted more than it's pound of flesh from Australians in the pre-Amazon pre-ebook days. Believe it or not, agency pricing seems to continue to flourish in Australia! |
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Chicago Public Library cut off reciprocal ebook borrowing several years ago. They said it took too much of the librarians' time to deal with all the issues. And even if I paid as a nonresident, I couldn't get access to ebooks. I got the impression that the librarians were fighting for their lives, and they needed to please their patrons, not people who pay a pittance to gain access. For example, I can join the CPL as a nonresident for $100-I currently pay almost $500 through my property taxes to gain access to my local library.
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Seattle (SPL) and King County (KCLS) have a reciprocal borrowing agreement that won't allow SPL patrons to place holds at King County libraries. KCLS patrons aren't restricted and can still place holds at Seattle libraries. Agreements between Seattle and other libraries don't have this restriction.
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