03-13-2012, 06:08 PM | #1 | |
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PayPal reverses itself, allows legal fiction.
UPDATE: PayPal's acceptable use policy:
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03-13-2012, 07:08 PM | #2 |
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A great victory for freedom. We get to spend our money on legal products when there is a willing seller, without needing the approval of Big Brother. I may not want to buy these books, but this was the camel's nose under the tent.
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03-13-2012, 07:21 PM | #3 |
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So freedom in America isn't quite dead yet.
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03-13-2012, 07:46 PM | #4 |
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How generous of them, to *allow* legal products to be sold through their system.
Now, pray tell, was Smashwords selling any illegal titles? |
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Smashwords was almost certainly not selling any illegal titles. It's possible a few are in other places, because some of the manga out there gets pretty explicit, and the exact lines for "obscenity" are hard to parse. The lines for "child pornography" are easy in the US: it has to involve a real human child. (Even one who's used as a model for pen-and-ink art would count.) If the pictures are all of entirely fictional characters, with no underage human models used in production, it's not child porn no matter what it looks like. (In the US. Other countries have different laws.) I doubt any manga that qualified as "obscenity" today would be getting any sales. Having *any* artistic or literary value is a pretty low bar to reach. |
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03-13-2012, 10:21 PM | #6 |
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The definition is not "any artistic or literary value."
It's "SERIOUS artistic or literary value." Porn is likely still going to be considered obscenity, and porn involving the touched on subjects is likely going to be banned. But, on a case by case basis instead of an overarching denial. |
03-14-2012, 05:39 AM | #7 |
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Smashwords still chooses to censor authors by deciding what they will or will not accept. Smashwords has still not learnt a lesson.
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Australia also has strict no-minors-having-sex rules for art & text, regardless of whether the minors are fictional constructs. |
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03-15-2012, 05:15 AM | #10 |
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Things could be worse. Possibly.....
Ha ha - if you think this is trouble, wait 'till Mr. Santorum gets his hands on the straightforward topic of censorship !
Should he get lucky , of course....... |
03-17-2012, 09:03 AM | #11 |
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'material that appeals to the prurient interest, depicts sexual conduct in a patently offensive way, and lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value' Reminds me of famous quote from a censor, "I can't tell you what pornography is but I know it when I see it!" Well that's nice for them making those decisions for the rest of the world. And prurient, what is wrong with that? Titillation is what drives most of the media outlets and advertising since Hollywood and Madison Ave were created. |
03-17-2012, 09:23 AM | #12 |
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Beating a dead [enough] horse from the other thread: They're not making the decisions for the rest of the world. If any don't like it, they can use another method of payment. The 'rest' of the world can do as they please.
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03-17-2012, 02:35 PM | #13 |
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this completely misconstrues the power of the President. As a Senator, Rick Santorum had far more power to enact censorship then he ever would as President. |
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