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05-29-2009, 06:07 AM | #1 | |
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USA, Canada and the EU attempt to kill treaty to protect blind people's access to wri
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05-29-2009, 07:07 AM | #2 |
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No thanks. Disabled people have no more right to my commercially written words than someone who can't read English. Should non-English speakers be entitled to free copies of my work? What about the rights of the poor who can't afford it? Etc.
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Have I missed something here? That post made absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. What are they trying to accomplish here?
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05-29-2009, 07:40 AM | #5 |
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This is potentially a hot topic and I'm posting as a moderator to say at the beginning of this new thread to remind all contributors that we should try to play nice and to be nice as we express our strong opinions.
(For those who know me through my postings, you know I love hot topics, controversial issues, and debate. I think you know where I'm coming from...) Don (Moderator) |
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*Unable to resist bait any longer. Clamps down onto hook* They're not asking for it to be free, but to be able to convert it into a format that they can use. Which to me doesn't seem unreasonable. |
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05-29-2009, 08:05 AM | #7 |
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I think the underlying reason is not a unconcern for disabled people, it is to stop the precedent that users can use the law to get better terms (for readers) for copyright. Sort of like a business fighting a union's formation by any means available or the rolling of the tanks in Hungary in 1956...
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This is about the blind person that needs to convert his legally purchased book into format he can use with his read-aloud software. Stripping DRM from a legally purchased e-book so the user that paid for the content can personally use it on a device of his choice is a CRIME in increasing number of jurisdictions. This is about creating legal way for disabled people to use DRM-crippled content using technical means that they are able to use. |
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Apparently the groups opposed to this are in favor of a "free market solution". I'm amazed that the group with a monopoly that extends 50-70 years after death and takes the stance of play by our rules or not at all is lobbying for a free market solution. I'm sorry but the true free market solution is to abolish copyright.
The existing copyright laws need to be balanced with the recognition of consumer rights and when the copyright holders don't understand this ... well unfortunately this means more legislation. |
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This isn't about getting it for free, this is about being able to get it at all. BTW: "someone else" being a state body, or else a non-profit specifically dedicated to helping the disabled. Last edited by Shaggy; 05-29-2009 at 10:01 AM. |
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So, for example, if I sell my book for $10, and the Virginia M. Woolf foundation makes a large-format version of that book without my authorization, they can sell or rent it to everyone, at the lower price they choose, for their profit, on indeterminate renumeration terms that are going to be set by the government, not by my contract. Last edited by sirbruce; 05-29-2009 at 10:12 AM. |
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Your link isn't working now (goes to a different page instead of bringing up the document), so I can't quote it directly.
But you missed the part in there where it said that the exceptions DO NOT APPLY if the work is originally available in an accessible format. Quote:
BTW, all of this already exists in US copyright law. |
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