Splitting files: two different namings

Maui · 04-16-2018, 03:00 AM

Hi,

there are two ways to split files in Sigil:

1) Split at cursor

The resulting filename will be of type Sectionxxxx.html where xxxx is the next free number.

2) Split at markers

The resulting filenames will be of type sourcefilename_xxxx where sourcefilename is the filename where the split occurs and xxxx the next free number.

Can this be consolidated in one of the next versions of Sigil? I like the naming (2) much much more.

|\/|aui

KevinH · 04-16-2018, 10:06 AM

Split At Cursor is different in that it uses CodeView locally to make one split. Split at markers grabs complete control and the uses QtConcurrent to create multiple new sections in parallel using multiple threads to do the splitting and copying.

The use of different naming schemes has more to do ith what information is passed to the concurrent routine, than anything else.

Why does this matter when typically after a split the user normally renumbers/renames things anyway?

Maui · 04-16-2018, 10:26 AM

Hi,

i'm renaming the files in a very first step to get an overview of what is in the ebpug and how it is structured.

After that maybe i split the files, in many cases i do not rename the files any more after splitting at markers cause thats fine for me, but i'm renaming the file always after a split at cursor.

In my small programming world i thought that function (1) is requesting the filename by a certain module and it just needs to query the filename from another module which al already in place.

So in my case your assumption is wrong: i'm not typically rename the files always in case of a marker based split.

|\/|aui

theducks · 04-16-2018, 12:01 PM

FWIW Once all splitting is done, I just bulk rename the selected group (yes, you can skip)
P1
C01
C02
P2

Tex2002ans · 04-16-2018, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maui

Can this be consolidated in one of the next versions of Sigil? I like the naming (2) much much more.

I agree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinH

Why does this matter when typically after a split the user normally renumbers/renames things anyway?

For consistency.

Both have the same functionality: Splitting a file... but they result in different filenames.

A real-life usecase:

I typically work on HTML articles pulled from websites. Let's say it's:

Article_Name_1_-_Full_Author.xhtml
Article_Name_2_-_Full_Author.xhtml
[...]
Article_Name_20_-_Full_Author.xhtml

Split at Cursor

I may go through split large articles into two (or book-sized HTMLs into chapters). If I used Split At Cursor, I would get this:

Article_Name_1_-_Full_Author.xhtml
- Section0001.xhtml
Article_Name_2_-_Full_Author.xhtml
- Section0002.xhtml
[...]
Article_Name_20_-_Full_Author.xhtml
- Section0020.xhtml

I see a few disadvantages of the Section#### method:

1. If I use Reports, these Section#### filenames are not helpful.
2. If I drag/drop articles into different positions, it is hard to know which Section#### belong to which articles.
3. I still have to manually rename each Section#### to be helpful to humans.

Split at Markers

If I used Split at Markers (which is the method I almost always do):

Article_Name_1_-_Full_Author.xhtml
- Article_Name_1_-_Full_Author_0001.xhtml
Article_Name_2_-_Full_Author.xhtml
- Article_Name_2_-_Full_Author_0001.xhtml
[...]
Article_Name_20_-_Full_Author.xhtml
- Article_Name_20_-_Full_Author_0001.xhtml

These filenames are still meaningful, and using Reports is still helpful.

If you dragged/dropped files around, you can still tell which split piece belongs to which file.

A Mix

Section#### files rename on a per-book level, while the other renames on a per-file level.

Now, the inconsistencies come when you mix both methods AND you do them in different orders:

Article_Name_1_-_Full_Author.xhtml
- Article_Name_1_-_Full_Author_0001.xhtml
- Article_Name_1_-_Full_Author_0002.xhtml
- Section0020.xhtml
- Section0020_0001.xhtml
- Section0020_0002.xhtml
Article_Name_2_-_Full_Author.xhtml
- Article_Name_2_-_Full_Author_0001.xhtml
- Section0001.xhtml
[...]
Article_Name_20_-_Full_Author.xhtml
- Article_Name_20_-_Full_Author_0001.xhtml
- Section0002.xhtml
- Section0002_0001.xhtml
- Section0005.xhtml

Depending on WHEN/HOW you do the splits, the filenames can become a hideous mixed nest. (You do a mass S/R to add markers after every <h1> in the book, F6. Then you individually go through and manually split any oddities, Ctrl+Enter. Then you notice a different pattern+S/R and do another F6.)

KevinH · 04-16-2018, 02:46 PM

Pull Requests and/or patches welcome. O

Tex2002ans · 04-16-2018, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinH

Pull Requests and/or patches welcome.

KevinH, you lazy bum!

04-16-2018, 03:00 AM	#1
Maui Connoisseur Posts: 57 Karma: 600000 Join Date: Jan 2018 Device: Galaxy Tab S2	Splitting files: two different namings Hi, there are two ways to split files in Sigil: 1) Split at cursor The resulting filename will be of type Sectionxxxx.html where xxxx is the next free number. 2) Split at markers The resulting filenames will be of type sourcefilename_xxxx where sourcefilename is the filename where the split occurs and xxxx the next free number. Can this be consolidated in one of the next versions of Sigil? I like the naming (2) much much more. \|\/\|aui

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04-16-2018, 10:06 AM	#2
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,673 Karma: 5433388 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Split At Cursor is different in that it uses CodeView locally to make one split. Split at markers grabs complete control and the uses QtConcurrent to create multiple new sections in parallel using multiple threads to do the splitting and copying. The use of different naming schemes has more to do ith what information is passed to the concurrent routine, than anything else. Why does this matter when typically after a split the user normally renumbers/renames things anyway?

04-16-2018, 10:26 AM	#3
Maui Connoisseur Posts: 57 Karma: 600000 Join Date: Jan 2018 Device: Galaxy Tab S2	Hi, i'm renaming the files in a very first step to get an overview of what is in the ebpug and how it is structured. After that maybe i split the files, in many cases i do not rename the files any more after splitting at markers cause thats fine for me, but i'm renaming the file always after a split at cursor. In my small programming world i thought that function (1) is requesting the filename by a certain module and it just needs to query the filename from another module which al already in place. So in my case your assumption is wrong: i'm not typically rename the files always in case of a marker based split. \|\/\|aui

04-16-2018, 12:01 PM	#4
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 29,839 Karma: 54837878 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	FWIW Once all splitting is done, I just bulk rename the selected group (yes, you can skip) P1 C01 C02 P2

04-16-2018, 02:46 PM	#6
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,673 Karma: 5433388 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Pull Requests and/or patches welcome. O