05-04-2016, 04:59 PM | #1 |
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epub converted to mobi won't start in right place
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I've searched the forums previously and while some people encountered the same issue, I couldn't find a solution that worked for me. I've created an epub, but when I upload it to my KDP dashboard and then download the mobi file it generates, it won't open to the correct Start location in the Kindle for PC app. It does respect my start location (the first chapter) if I look at it in the Kindle Previewer program in "Kindle Voyage" mode...but for some reason, Kindle for PC insists on opening the book at the Table of Contents instead : ( Any idea why this is happening? I followed the Amazon KDP instructions re adding the following tag: Code:
<a name="Start">Start location here</a> Here's the info from my content.opf file (all I've changed is identifying info about the book; everything else is the same): Code:
<guide> <reference href="titlepage.xhtml" title="Cover" type="cover"/> <reference href="MyBookTitle_split_002.html#calibre_toc_3" title="Start" type="text"/> <reference href="contents.xhtml" title="Table of Contents" type="toc"/> </guide> Code:
<a id="calibre_toc_3"><span class="hidden">Chapter I</span></a> If it makes a difference, I also included the following when I first converted the html file in Calibre: Code:
Start reading at (XPath expression) //h:a[re:test(@name, "Start", "i")] Again, if there's any way I can fix this problem, please let me know. |
05-04-2016, 06:00 PM | #2 |
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Supposedly the KDP will unpredictably reset the SRL to whatever they feel like.
If you convert it using Amazon's KindleGen or Kindle Previewer, it will respect the SRL you set -- then upload the resulting KindleGenned mobi to the KDP and it will automagically break! ... This isn't really a calibre problem or an issue with calibre's conversion (in fact you indicate that you haven't even used calibre's conversion feature at all, instead you uploaded an EPUB), so I have requested to have this thread moved to the Kindle Formats forum. EDIT: theducks moved it to the Amazon Kindle forum, instead of the Kindle Formats forum. So I was able to move it from the Amazon Kindle forum to the Kindle Formats forum. It certainly isn't about the hardware Kindle device. Last edited by eschwartz; 05-04-2016 at 07:09 PM. |
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If you look at the code snippets I posted, though, you'll see the default Calibre naming conventions, so I wondered if something about them might be messing up how Kindle for PC handles the SRL... |
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05-04-2016, 09:05 PM | #5 |
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Oh well, it is still an issue on the Kindle/Amazon end of things.
The point stands. Hopefully one of the ebook producers in this subforum has an idea for you -- I know @Hitch for one has struggled with and ranted about this issue, although any workarounds she has *might* be a trade secret. |
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05-05-2016, 02:08 AM | #7 | |
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display: none; If you're using KindlePrevier, click the Compilation Details link. You'll most likely get one or more of the following error messages: Code:
Warning(prcgen):W14001: Hyperlink not resolved: <file name> Error(prcgen):E24010: Hyperlink not resolved in toc (One possible reason can be that the link points to a tag with style display:none): <file name> |
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<a name="Start" class="hidden">Chapter One</a> I've done some further research and learned this is another option for the <guide> section: Code:
<reference href="Text/Frontmatter.html#coverpage" title="Start here" type="other.start"/> |
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05-06-2016, 01:40 AM | #9 | |
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BTW, it looks like you're trying to define the cover page as the start reading location (SRL). Unfortunately that can't be done via guide items. (There are countless threads about it in this forum.) |
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Obviously there's a way to do this properly, because books I've bought or KU-borrowed from Amazon open at the first chapter automatically...so what I have they got in their guide file that I don't? : ( |
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05-07-2016, 05:32 AM | #11 | |
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The TOC or more accurately the middle of the TOC is actually a very popular place for Amazon to begin my books in which I have labeled the title page as text. But it's not consistent. Not long ago I published a book that started -- yes! -- at the title page. However, I found some typos so uploaded a correction version, republished, and had Support push the revision to my Kindle archives . . . and the new version opened in the middle of the TOC. I know that some people claim to have a top-secret method for beating the system, but I have tried every published one, and they all fail. Here are a couple: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho....php?t=212660 https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=191387 |
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05-08-2016, 01:26 AM | #12 |
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I've always used 'guide' tags by putting the epub of the book in Sigil. I'm always careful to put where I want the book to Start right after the TOC, Amazon seems to choke if your start point isn't after the TOC for some reason. They probably have a rule about that in their Formatting Guide. Then I add the guide tags beginning with Cover, Title page, TOC and then 'text' which is my Start id for Notes, Prologue, Chapter 1 or whichever point I want Amazon to flag as the Beginning. Sometimes in the content.opf the guides loose their order and I go back, take off the guide tags and re-do Cover, Title page, TOC and lastly Text. I've never had a problem with my own books or any of the books I format for others. Just saying. This is probably too simplistic, but it works for me and has for years.
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FWIW, the file generated by Kindle Previewer is around 2 meg, whereas the KDP-generated file is nearly double in size. That's rather odd, since I figured they're both supposed to include multiple mobi formats, but who knows. Quote:
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<reference type="cover" title="Cover" href="cover_page.xhtml" /> <reference type="?" title="Title Page" href="title_page.xhtml" /> <reference type="toc" title="Table of Contents" href="toc-filename.xhtml" /> <reference type="text" title="Beginning" href="where-to-start.xhtml" /> |
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05-10-2016, 05:04 AM | #14 | |
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I uploaded an epub yesterday, with no semantics whatever, and no cover either. Downloaded the "mobi" at Step 7. Couldn't sideload it to my Fire tablet (this happens sometimes--the "mobi" is there, but the tablet can't see it) so used Send to Kindle instead. (Would that affect things?)
Anyhow, it opened to the middle of the TOC. Next time I'll label Chapter One as "text" and see what that does. Quote:
A lot of my books begin with the TOC, followed by the title page. I tried labeling the title page as "text," but it didn't work. I find this annoying. A book should start with a cover. Even my goodwife, who has the habit of folding the dustcover in half and using it as a bookmark, begins each reading session with glimpsing the cover. |
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05-10-2016, 05:06 AM | #15 |
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Good grief, the import of the thread title just struck me. Could the problem be that we are uploading an epub to the KDP, or perhaps, more specifically, that we are building that epub with Sigil?
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