Sigil Adding White Space?

beingnickb · 07-25-2012, 04:10 PM

I exported to the EPUB format from Apple's Pages in iWork '09. The book looks great. All spacing is appropriate. But I wanted to remove a few pages from the spine so they could only be viewed via hyperlink. When I do the editing in Sigil and then save, I suddenly have ridiculously amounts of white space everywhere. If I re-export from Pages, it looks fine again (but the pages I was trying to hide show). It seems as if something is happening during the Sigil save...

Any thoughts here? I've done all the normal things in the CSS such as specifying 0 for margins and padding with not much luck.

Toxaris · 07-26-2012, 01:55 AM

Where do you see the white spaces? Do you see it in Code View?
Do you mean spaces or margins?

My guess is, that you see it in Code View. Than it is normal and is done to make the code more readable.

beingnickb · 07-26-2012, 12:53 PM

No, not in the code. When I view the EPUB in a reader. It makes no sense to me:

1. Fine after exported from Pages.
2. Not fine after saving from Sigil.

mrmikel · 07-26-2012, 01:37 PM

Do you have Tidy on in Sigil?

Do some editing not in the spine and see if the spine editing is causing your problem.

JSWolf · 07-26-2012, 01:43 PM

Run Sigil without loading your ePub and turn Tidy off. Tidy can modify some things. Then close Sigil and rerun it with your ePub.

beingnickb · 07-27-2012, 11:22 AM

Yeah that didn't seem to work. It's okay. I think I am going to go a different route than the hidden pages so I will not need to even use Sigil.

JSWolf · 07-27-2012, 11:42 AM

Can you post an ePub before Sigil and the same ePub after Sigil saved it?

beingnickb · 07-28-2012, 12:01 AM

Sure. See attached.

EDIT: Attachments removed.

Jellby · 07-28-2012, 05:38 AM

Could you explain what you mean with "ridiculously amounts of white space everywhere"? Is it blank pages? Vertical space between paragraphs? Unjustified lines? Space between words?

I see nothing wrong at first sight opening the ePubs in the browser.

Hitch · 07-28-2012, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellby

Could you explain what you mean with "ridiculously amounts of white space everywhere"? Is it blank pages? Vertical space between paragraphs? Unjustified lines? Space between words?

I see nothing wrong at first sight opening the ePubs in the browser.

Ditto--what device are you using to view this, or what reader? I haven't spent a lot of time on it, but in ePUBreader they appear identical, so I don't see the issue either.

Hitch

DiapDealer · 07-28-2012, 07:32 AM

The 'style="white-space:pre-wrap"' in all the <body> elements needs to go. Chuck it right out. ADE seems to be ignoring it for the most part (line-breaks), but Sigil's QTWebKit renderer doesn't. It's showing every line-break that Sigil's pretty-print feature is adding (Code View). I assume the ridiculous amounts of whitespace might show up in iBooks, too, since I believe it uses a WebKit renderer as well.

beingnickb · 07-28-2012, 12:38 PM

Okay. I'll give that a shot. I am using iBooks, for the most part, to view it.

beingnickb · 07-28-2012, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

The 'style="white-space

re-wrap"' in all the <body> elements needs to go. Chuck it right out. ADE seems to be ignoring it for the most part (line-breaks), but Sigil's QTWebKit renderer doesn't. It's showing every line-break that Sigil's pretty-print feature is adding (Code View). I assume the ridiculous amounts of whitespace might show up in iBooks, too, since I believe it uses a WebKit renderer as well.

This was the culprit.

Thanks all very much for your help and suggestions.

Hitch · 07-28-2012, 03:38 PM

AHA. iBooks. Shoulda known.

Hitch

JSWolf · 07-28-2012, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitch

AHA. iBooks. Shoulda known.

Hitch

Sigil produces ePub. So when talking about iBooks, it belongs in a separate forum section totally unrelated to ePub or Sigil.

07-25-2012, 04:10 PM	#1
beingnickb Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Device: iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro	Sigil Adding White Space? I exported to the EPUB format from Apple's Pages in iWork '09. The book looks great. All spacing is appropriate. But I wanted to remove a few pages from the spine so they could only be viewed via hyperlink. When I do the editing in Sigil and then save, I suddenly have ridiculously amounts of white space everywhere. If I re-export from Pages, it looks fine again (but the pages I was trying to hide show). It seems as if something is happening during the Sigil save... Any thoughts here? I've done all the normal things in the CSS such as specifying 0 for margins and padding with not much luck.

07-28-2012, 12:01 AM	#8
beingnickb Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Device: iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro	Sure. See attached. EDIT: Attachments removed. Last edited by beingnickb; 07-28-2012 at 12:48 PM.

07-28-2012, 07:32 AM	#11
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,541 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	The 'style="white-space:pre-wrap"' in all the <body> elements needs to go. Chuck it right out. ADE seems to be ignoring it for the most part (line-breaks), but Sigil's QTWebKit renderer doesn't. It's showing every line-break that Sigil's pretty-print feature is adding (Code View). I assume the ridiculous amounts of whitespace might show up in iBooks, too, since I believe it uses a WebKit renderer as well. Last edited by DiapDealer; 07-28-2012 at 07:46 AM.

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07-26-2012, 01:55 AM	#2
Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	Where do you see the white spaces? Do you see it in Code View? Do you mean spaces or margins? My guess is, that you see it in Code View. Than it is normal and is done to make the code more readable.

07-26-2012, 12:53 PM	#3
beingnickb Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Device: iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro	No, not in the code. When I view the EPUB in a reader. It makes no sense to me: 1. Fine after exported from Pages. 2. Not fine after saving from Sigil.

07-26-2012, 01:37 PM	#4
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	Do you have Tidy on in Sigil? Do some editing not in the spine and see if the spine editing is causing your problem.

07-26-2012, 01:43 PM	#5
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,851 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Run Sigil without loading your ePub and turn Tidy off. Tidy can modify some things. Then close Sigil and rerun it with your ePub.

07-27-2012, 11:22 AM	#6
beingnickb Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Device: iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro	Yeah that didn't seem to work. It's okay. I think I am going to go a different route than the hidden pages so I will not need to even use Sigil.

07-27-2012, 11:42 AM	#7
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,851 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Can you post an ePub before Sigil and the same ePub after Sigil saved it?

07-28-2012, 05:38 AM	#9
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 7,515 Karma: 18512745 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon, Kobo Aura	Could you explain what you mean with "ridiculously amounts of white space everywhere"? Is it blank pages? Vertical space between paragraphs? Unjustified lines? Space between words? I see nothing wrong at first sight opening the ePubs in the browser.

07-28-2012, 12:38 PM	#12
beingnickb Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Device: iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro	Okay. I'll give that a shot. I am using iBooks, for the most part, to view it.

07-28-2012, 03:38 PM	#14
Hitch Bookmaker & Cat Slave Posts: 11,460 Karma: 158448243 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ Device: K2, iPad, KFire, PPW, Voyage, NookColor. 2 Droid, Oasis, Boox Note2	AHA. iBooks. Shoulda known. Hitch