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Old 01-26-2018, 05:19 PM   #316
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So I have tried to jailbreak my kindle pp3 but didn't go as expected

I have opened the front panel (be sure you have the right tools otherwhise you risk to damage your kindle, don't use cheep opening tools)

The problem is, I have destroyed the firmware connectors (rx-tx), I have used an electronic soldering gun and after I have melted the cables on connectors the cables depleted with the connectors on them (so no more jailbreak for my kindle, don't use an electronic soldering gun but use some plasteline and carefully somehow attach the cables on the connectors, also you won't be able to melt anything on the voltage conector because is unstickable!)
If you do not need the cables hooked up permanently, there are serial port spots on the back of the motherboard.

I had the same problem, accidentally burned off the TX and RX pins on the front.

They are tricky to use because of the stuff on the back of the screen, and it is hard to put the motherboard back into place.

I would recommend using some kind of conductive glue or similar, so you can remove it easier when done jailbreaking.

Here was my post on doing that.
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...2&postcount=40

the spots on the back are bigger than the ones on the front, I was able to solder to them much easier.

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Old 01-27-2018, 05:28 PM   #317
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If you do not need the cables hooked up permanently, there are serial port spots on the back of the motherboard.

I had the same problem, accidentally burned off the TX and RX pins on the front.

They are tricky to use because of the stuff on the back of the screen, and it is hard to put the motherboard back into place.

I would recommend using some kind of conductive glue or similar, so you can remove it easier when done jailbreaking.

Here was my post on doing that.
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...2&postcount=40

the spots on the back are bigger than the ones on the front, I was able to solder to them much easier.
Cheers for that info
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Old 02-01-2018, 11:02 AM   #318
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Can I use this to downgrade a voyage with 5.8.9.2?Without JBed...
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Old 02-01-2018, 01:00 PM   #319
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All touch screen Kindles are same-same-same (except, of course, for the filenames).
With the exception of the two Oasis models, no one has documented where the serial port connections are at.
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Old 02-02-2018, 07:39 AM   #320
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Crazy Question

I know the memory chips are sticked on the motherboard, but I also know they can be replaced with the right tools, would be posible to put the chip from a jailbreaked voyage on a oasis ?! A jailbraked Oasis sounds like FUN!
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I know the memory chips are sticked on the motherboard, but I also know they can be replaced with the right tools, would be posible to put the chip from a jailbreaked voyage on a oasis ?! A jailbraked Oasis sounds like FUN!
Unless someone discovers the serial port connections (or an alternative) on the Oasis models, that may be the only way to jail break them (swap memory with memory that has the jb pre-installed).

In answer to your question - most likely not good idea to swap between models.

We do have a thread here describing how to replace the memory chip.

What is possible is to put the files on a brand new memory chip.
(Which is how it is done in the factory, the chips are programmed before being soldered to the mother board).
And people who have the special tools to replace the chip, often have the chip programmer that is required to program them "on the tape".

On the Oasis-1 my back-up script provides the repair person with all the files they require.
That back-up script has not (yet) been updated to handle the new organization of the Oasis-2.

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The repair person has to make a copy of the owner and device specific information stored on the original chip before removing it.
(Unless they ran the backup script on the original chip, which requires that the device be jail broken, so why replace the chip? )

The big problem in the case of the two Oasis models is the amount of glue used.
Amazon used enough glue to make them nearly impossible to open without damage.
Worse than the K4

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Old 02-03-2018, 07:55 AM   #322
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Unless someone discovers the serial port connections (or an alternative) on the Oasis models, that may be the only way to jail break them (swap memory with memory that has the jb pre-installed).

In answer to your question - most likely not good idea to swap between models.

We do have a thread here describing how to replace the memory chip.

What is possible is to put the files on a brand new memory chip.
(Which is how it is done in the factory, the chips are programmed before being soldered to the mother board).
And people who have the special tools to replace the chip, often have the chip programmer that is required to program them "on the tape".

On the Oasis-1 my back-up script provides the repair person with all the files they require.
That back-up script has not (yet) been updated to handle the new organization of the Oasis-2.

Note:
The repair person has to make a copy of the owner and device specific information stored on the original chip before removing it.
(Unless they ran the backup script on the original chip, which requires that the device be jail broken, so why replace the chip? )

The big problem in the case of the two Oasis models is the amount of glue used.
Amazon used enough glue to make them nearly impossible to open without damage.
Worse than the K4
If you soften the glue with an hair-dryer and use a vaccum sucker there should be no damage isn't ?!
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:21 AM   #323
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Old 02-03-2018, 06:10 PM   #324
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One more question

If is so damn hard to open it maybe Amazon never intended to make it repairable so there is no point for serial connectors, but what if the chip can be reprogrammed thru the mini-usb port(with some secret commands you can activate that feature), was that ideea debated ?
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Old 02-03-2018, 11:24 PM   #325
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If is so damn hard to open it maybe Amazon never intended to make it repairable so there is no point for serial connectors, but what if the chip can be reprogrammed thru the mini-usb port(with some secret commands you can activate that feature), was that ideea debated ?
I'm convinced that this is likely. I created a thread a while back that nobody posted in, but I ended up returning my new oasis because I could not handle the color gradient with the led on the side.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=291858

But if you know anyone who has android flash cables, or similar things, feel free to send them at this thread.

you can also check this thread where we have reported some things that DON'T work on the paperwhite, just for some light reading.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=289546
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And on any thread here, you can use the "thread tools" dropdown box in the blue bar to subscribe to the thread.
Note: In your CP, the notifications may have defaulted to "once a week", and for this type of purpose you might want to set it to "immediate".

And if really paranoid, that something might be said you do not want to miss, hook-up a IFTTT watcher.

And if you want to watch the entire forum (just this one, #150) for a mention of ...
Well, whatever you want to watch for ...

Set your feed-reader (or IFTTT) to follow:
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One possible starting point:
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Also, this might help:
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Old 02-05-2018, 06:42 PM   #327
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I just jailbroke my new voyage. 5.8.10

Even following my own instructions it was a minor challenge. Took a while to figure out which jailbreak files to use. Nijule's writing is like a mad scientist.

Pin method worked out pretty good though. It's a little tricky to get them to stay in place, but 10x better than trying to solder.

If I'm ever unbanned i will update the original posts.
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I just jailbroke my new voyage. 5.8.10

Even following my own instructions it was a minor challenge. Took a while to figure out which jailbreak files to use. Nijule's writing is like a mad scientist.

Pin method worked out pretty good though. It's a little tricky to get them to stay in place, but 10x better than trying to solder.

If I'm ever unbanned i will update the original posts.
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:12 AM   #329
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guys, i'm setting up the serial, the hardware is almost ready. but i can't find how to flash new firmware. my pw3 is bricked, how can i put the fw on it?
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Would something based on FT232RL work fine? I assume it would, as long as it's possible to set it to 1.8v...
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