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Paul Moews · 09-29-2006, 02:11 PM

Here is a higher resolution comparison picture of the Iliad and the
PRS-500 - It was taken in bright sunlight outdoors - The page is
one scanned from an old book - 300 bpi - similar if not the same
on both machines - about half a meg.

calamari · 09-29-2006, 02:45 PM

Thanks a lot for your answers, NatCh and Paul!
Sounds really great to me! Can't wait to get one

.

Randy · 09-29-2006, 03:06 PM

Just received mine - delivered to the front desk, and I swallowed my tongue when I saw the crushed box with the packing peanuts spilling out of a gaping hole in the carton!

I photographically documented the damage, then proceeded to extract the Reader box out of the shipping carton. It, too, had a crushed corner...but the Reader itself is undamaged! Whew!

Haven't loaded anything yet - here's what's preloaded:
1984 - George Orwell
Blue Dahlia (excerpt) - Nora Roberts
Cell (excerpt) - Stephen King
The Da Vinci Code (excerpt) - Dan Brown
Eldest (excerpt) - Christopher Paolini
Excavation - James Rollins
Freakanomics (excerpt) - Steven D. Levitt & Stephen J. Dubner
The Innocent (Excerpt) - Harlan Coben
The Italian's Stolen Bride - Emma Darcy
John James Audubon (excerpt) - Richard Rhodes
Operation Guide - Sony Corp.
Peach Fuzz (excerpt) - Lindsay Cibos & Jared Hodges
Pride And Prejudice (excerpt) - Jane Austen
Unleash The Night (excerpt) - Sherilyn Kenyon
Vanguard, Book One - David Mack
Winning (excerpt) - Jack Welch & Suzy Welch

gbdesai · 09-29-2006, 03:54 PM

What part of the country do you live in Randy, just want to get a sense of delivery time... And what was the estimate you had on the FedEx SmartPost site?

ElaHuguet · 09-29-2006, 05:28 PM

From the picture in sunlight, why is the Sony Reader's page/text looking so gritty? Is that the zoom function maybe? Or from loading a too-large page into it?

Paul Moews · 09-29-2006, 05:52 PM

Here is an example of the fit visible - fit width behavior by the
PSR-500 that I mentioned before. I made two trial PDF's both
the same page size 1.5 x 4 inches. One was scanned in and therefore
had no fonts. The size button had no useful effect - instead when
pushed the first page of the file was displayed.

The second contained a font - It was prepared from a word for windows
doc file - the page size was set in word to 1.5 x 4 inches with top
and bottom margins of 0.2 inch and left and right margins of 0.1 inch.
As instructed by Adobe see :

www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/330729.html

The same margins were set in adobe acrobat and a pdf created. When the
size button was pushed the display changed but all the print showed in
both views - doesn't really fit width unless you're referring in some
way to the fonts. See comparison picture.

Note in the illiad reader comparison picture - a bit of dust blew onto the displays.

ElaHuguet · 09-29-2006, 06:04 PM

I'm sorry, I used "gritty" for lack of a better word, I mean the actual text, the letters, aren't looking as sharp and clear as the iLiad's; I expected them to be smaller, but I don't understand why they lost sharpness. Using Firefox, before I zoom into the original size of your photo, the page on Sony seems to be "half there", so to speak; when I do zoom in, you can tell quite clearly that it's not being rendered as well. So why not, I wonder? The zoom function on the Firefox, for example, does that to pictures when it reduces them to fit the screen, I wonder if that's what the Sony is doing, and therefore one would need to make sure you were sizing the pdf's well before loading???

(btw, have fun with your toys, lucky you!)

Otter · 09-29-2006, 06:40 PM

The text does seem fuzzy and unclear...is that the actually rendering on the Reader or something going wonky from taking a picture of it?

Paul Moews · 09-29-2006, 07:14 PM

The scanned pictures of type are not as clear as they might be.
They were done at 300 bpi and don't come out as well as I would
like on either the Iliad or the Sony reader. Interpolation has to
be done to get the files on the display - they look quite
sharp on a PC. Maybe more could be done to improve the display
of bitmaps of text either in the display program for the Iliad or
maybe in more attention to the file that is presented to the
devices. A little disapointing.

A "Sony Reader" folder is created on the SD card when the reader is
booted with an SD card in place. Inside is a "database" folder and
inside the data base folder is a file called "cache.xml", an extensible
markup language document - layouts, bookmarks, etc.

lordvetinari2 · 09-29-2006, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raluke

Oh dear. Now I've gone and outed myself as a Linux weenie! :-)

In fact, I am now writing from Xubuntu, as I run both systems. Oh dear, now I have outed myself as a Linux newbie! :-)

PS: I have just ordered O'Reilly's Linux Pocket Guide, I want to learn.

ultim8fury · 09-29-2006, 09:11 PM

Ex-Linux user here - currently a Mac addict. All the commands and tools I got used to in linux but with a better looking UI.

Good luck with your linux journey lordvetinari2. The learning curve is steep but well worth it.

da_jane · 09-29-2006, 10:33 PM

Maybe you could take a picture of a paper book page next to the Sony Reader so we could get an idea of resolution.

NatCh · 09-29-2006, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Moews

A "Sony Reader" folder is created on the SD card when the reader is booted with an SD card in place. Inside is a "database" folder and
inside the data base folder is a file called "cache.xml", an extensible
markup language document - layouts, bookmarks, etc.

Say, Paul, when you pull the SD card out and put it back in, does the Reader reload your previous bookmarks/page where you were? I know it's supposed to, but I didn't get to test it while I was out in SD....

Greg G · 09-29-2006, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Moews

... I made two trial PDF's ...

How do they compair when looking at a text file? So far I have to admit I'm a bit nervous about the image on the Sony Reader. I don't expect to view pdfs very often though so if it is just a pdf thing I don't care so much. I care about text and the connect store format.

NatCh · 09-29-2006, 11:57 PM

The PDF's I tried worked just fine. The display was as crisp for them as for anything else I threw at it.

09-29-2006, 02:11 PM	#31
Paul Moews Enthusiast Posts: 32 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jul 2006	better picture Here is a higher resolution comparison picture of the Iliad and the PRS-500 - It was taken in bright sunlight outdoors - The page is one scanned from an old book - 300 bpi - similar if not the same on both machines - about half a meg. Attached Thumbnails

09-29-2006, 03:06 PM	#33
Randy Member Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2006	Second one! Received 9/29/06 11:30 AM PDT Just received mine - delivered to the front desk, and I swallowed my tongue when I saw the crushed box with the packing peanuts spilling out of a gaping hole in the carton! I photographically documented the damage, then proceeded to extract the Reader box out of the shipping carton. It, too, had a crushed corner...but the Reader itself is undamaged! Whew! Haven't loaded anything yet - here's what's preloaded: 1984 - George Orwell Blue Dahlia (excerpt) - Nora Roberts Cell (excerpt) - Stephen King The Da Vinci Code (excerpt) - Dan Brown Eldest (excerpt) - Christopher Paolini Excavation - James Rollins Freakanomics (excerpt) - Steven D. Levitt & Stephen J. Dubner The Innocent (Excerpt) - Harlan Coben The Italian's Stolen Bride - Emma Darcy John James Audubon (excerpt) - Richard Rhodes Operation Guide - Sony Corp. Peach Fuzz (excerpt) - Lindsay Cibos & Jared Hodges Pride And Prejudice (excerpt) - Jane Austen Unleash The Night (excerpt) - Sherilyn Kenyon Vanguard, Book One - David Mack Winning (excerpt) - Jack Welch & Suzy Welch

09-29-2006, 05:52 PM	#36
Paul Moews Enthusiast Posts: 32 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jul 2006	visible - width toggle Here is an example of the fit visible - fit width behavior by the PSR-500 that I mentioned before. I made two trial PDF's both the same page size 1.5 x 4 inches. One was scanned in and therefore had no fonts. The size button had no useful effect - instead when pushed the first page of the file was displayed. The second contained a font - It was prepared from a word for windows doc file - the page size was set in word to 1.5 x 4 inches with top and bottom margins of 0.2 inch and left and right margins of 0.1 inch. As instructed by Adobe see : www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/330729.html The same margins were set in adobe acrobat and a pdf created. When the size button was pushed the display changed but all the print showed in both views - doesn't really fit width unless you're referring in some way to the fonts. See comparison picture. Note in the illiad reader comparison picture - a bit of dust blew onto the displays. Attached Thumbnails

09-29-2006, 07:14 PM	#39
Paul Moews Enthusiast Posts: 32 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jul 2006	scanned type could be better - compare to pdf with font The scanned pictures of type are not as clear as they might be. They were done at 300 bpi and don't come out as well as I would like on either the Iliad or the Sony reader. Interpolation has to be done to get the files on the display - they look quite sharp on a PC. Maybe more could be done to improve the display of bitmaps of text either in the display program for the Iliad or maybe in more attention to the file that is presented to the devices. A little disapointing. A "Sony Reader" folder is created on the SD card when the reader is booted with an SD card in place. Inside is a "database" folder and inside the data base folder is a file called "cache.xml", an extensible markup language document - layouts, bookmarks, etc.

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09-29-2006, 02:45 PM	#32
calamari Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2006	Thanks a lot for your answers, NatCh and Paul! Sounds really great to me! Can't wait to get one .

09-29-2006, 03:54 PM	#34
gbdesai Member Posts: 14 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2006 Device: Sony PRS-500	What part of the country do you live in Randy, just want to get a sense of delivery time... And what was the estimate you had on the FedEx SmartPost site?

09-29-2006, 05:28 PM	#35
ElaHuguet iLiad freak Posts: 339 Karma: 243 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mallorca, Spain Device: iRex iLiad	From the picture in sunlight, why is the Sony Reader's page/text looking so gritty? Is that the zoom function maybe? Or from loading a too-large page into it?

09-29-2006, 06:04 PM	#37
ElaHuguet iLiad freak Posts: 339 Karma: 243 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mallorca, Spain Device: iRex iLiad	I'm sorry, I used "gritty" for lack of a better word, I mean the actual text, the letters, aren't looking as sharp and clear as the iLiad's; I expected them to be smaller, but I don't understand why they lost sharpness. Using Firefox, before I zoom into the original size of your photo, the page on Sony seems to be "half there", so to speak; when I do zoom in, you can tell quite clearly that it's not being rendered as well. So why not, I wonder? The zoom function on the Firefox, for example, does that to pictures when it reduces them to fit the screen, I wonder if that's what the Sony is doing, and therefore one would need to make sure you were sizing the pdf's well before loading??? (btw, have fun with your toys, lucky you!)

09-29-2006, 06:40 PM	#38
Otter Connoisseur Posts: 65 Karma: 79 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fairfax, Va Device: PRS-500, PRS-505, PRS-650, ipod Touch, ipad 2, NC, Kindle Scribe	The text does seem fuzzy and unclear...is that the actually rendering on the Reader or something going wonky from taking a picture of it?

09-29-2006, 09:11 PM	#41
ultim8fury Addict Posts: 219 Karma: 368 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Device: PRS500, Looking at 700	Ex-Linux user here - currently a Mac addict. All the commands and tools I got used to in linux but with a better looking UI. Good luck with your linux journey lordvetinari2. The learning curve is steep but well worth it.

09-29-2006, 10:33 PM	#42
da_jane Evangelist Posts: 405 Karma: 692 Join Date: Sep 2006 Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 3 \| Kindle Paperwhite \| iPad Mini	Maybe you could take a picture of a paper book page next to the Sony Reader so we could get an idea of resolution.

09-29-2006, 11:57 PM	#45
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	The PDF's I tried worked just fine. The display was as crisp for them as for anything else I threw at it.

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