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Old 07-11-2020, 10:04 AM   #76
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Never need to charge:
You'd need a special display where the black is actually transparency to the solar panel and text is white. See "The Mission's Talent".
You'd need about 1/10th of current power consumption.
You could add motion and vibration charging. After all, mechanical self-winding watches are over 200 years old!
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The Geneva Society of Arts, reporting on this watch in 1777, stated that 15 minutes walking was necessary to fully wind the watch.
The Eneloop or other NiMH cells are much heavier than Lithium for the same capacity (though curiously close to same volumetric capacity) and higher self discharged. Though they don't degrade if stored discharged. OTOH, bad stuff happens if you try to charge a flat Lithium cell, so if it's left too long the internal charger won't charge it at all.
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Old 07-11-2020, 10:53 AM   #77
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Never need to charge:
You'd need a special display where the black is actually transparency to the solar panel and text is white. See "The Mission's Talent".
You'd need about 1/10th of current power consumption.
Well, I did say it was a dream device. I know it's not a realistic hope any time soon.

But as an alternative to a display with transparent black, there's also solar cells now that are partly transparent and absorb energy in low IR freqs or high UV freqs and pass most visible frequencies. That could be put over the display instead of under it.

And, more practically, I hardly ever charge my device on purpose. The time I spend side loading (while distracted reading email and these forums) is typically long enough.
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But as an alternative to a display with transparent black, there's also solar cells now that are partly transparent and absorb energy in low IR freqs or high UV freqs and pass most visible frequencies. That could be put over the display instead of under it.
Sounds like something that Garmin is using for their watches:

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/solar/

$1,400 for the tactix Delta Solar Edition with Ballistics.

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Never need to charge:
You'd need a special display where the black is actually transparency to the solar panel and text is white. See "The Mission's Talent".
You'd need about 1/10th of current power consumption.
You could add motion and vibration charging. After all, mechanical self-winding watches are over 200 years old!

The Eneloop or other NiMH cells are much heavier than Lithium for the same capacity (though curiously close to same volumetric capacity) and higher self discharged. Though they don't degrade if stored discharged. OTOH, bad stuff happens if you try to charge a flat Lithium cell, so if it's left too long the internal charger won't charge it at all.
I've replaced my dream ereader's rechargeable-AA-battery compartment for your motion and vibration charging.
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