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Old 01-08-2020, 12:31 AM   #16
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Old 01-08-2020, 01:14 AM   #17
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We are very grateful to you all for your patronage and support over the years.

The University of Adelaide Library is proud to have contributed to the early movement of free eBooks and to have witnessed their popularity as they grew to become a regular fixture in study, research, and leisure.

There are a number of reputable alternatives for free access to material within the public domain:

Project Gutenberg
Internet Archive
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Basically: "Sorry folks, we just can't be arsed any longer."
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Old 01-08-2020, 03:23 AM   #18
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Basically: "Sorry folks, we just can't be arsed any longer."

What a crude, dismissive and derogatory way to parse their statement. It also bears no ACTUAL resemblance to what they said, suggesting as it does that the decision was lazy and self-indulgent, with no evidence at all to support that assumption. TANSTAAFLibrary, perhaps instead of contemning their decision with vulgarity, YOU could offer to step in and fill the breach?
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Old 01-08-2020, 03:48 AM   #19
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No big deal. There is nothing valuable in public domain books. If a book was written or translated so long ago, it probably has a bad translation (they didn't even have real dictionaries and Wikipedia those days), an old orthography, or is so incomprehensible it needs comments. Both of those remove it from public domain.
A text composed 70 years ago and untouched since are just a waste of bytes.
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Old 01-08-2020, 03:50 AM   #20
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What a crude, dismissive and derogatory way to parse their statement. It also bears no ACTUAL resemblance to what they said, suggesting as it does that the decision was lazy and self-indulgent, with no evidence at all to support that assumption. TANSTAAFLibrary, perhaps instead of contemning their decision with vulgarity, YOU could offer to step in and fill the breach?
Well, if they are so proud of their role in the free PD ebook movement, why don't they keep their library on the servers? Sorry, but for me that statement is hypocritical.

As for me, since I became a member here, I've been spending as much of my free time as I can afford (and sometimes more) preparing ebooks for the Patricia Clark Memorial Library. But thanks for the friendly encouragement.

What is TANSTAAFLibrary, btw?
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No big deal. There is nothing valuable in public domain books. If a book was written or translated so long ago, it probably has a bad translation (they didn't even have real dictionaries and Wikipedia those days), an old orthography, or is so incomprehensible it needs comments. Both of those remove it from public domain.
A text composed 70 years ago and untouched since are just a waste of bytes.
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:02 AM   #22
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There's nothing remotely hypocritical about being proud of having contributed to the early development of a service but finding it necessary to stop being one of those providers. It is rather unlikely the University in question has infinite resources, deciding that the resources they do have are best used elsewhere now that there are several alternatives to the service they helped initiate is not hypocritical or lazy. A gracious user would thank them for their previous service, not insult them for having decided they need to stop.
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:24 AM   #23
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There's nothing remotely hypocritical about being proud of having contributed to the early development of a service but finding it necessary to stop being one of those providers. It is rather unlikely the University in question has infinite resources, deciding that the resources they do have are best used elsewhere now that there are several alternatives to the service they helped initiate is not hypocritical or lazy. A gracious user would thank them for their previous service, not insult them for having decided they need to stop.
In a way you are right. I might have perhaps expressed my thanks as well as my disappointment.

And yet: It was a library! You don't just shut down a library and throw away the books. Find someone else willing to put them on their servers, or at least publish a warning that you are planning to shut down so that people can download the books before that. If someone responsible cared for the library, they would have done something to save it, even if it had to be shut down. So I still think that statement is hypocritical.
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Old 01-08-2020, 07:04 PM   #24
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Disappointment, yes. But hypocritical? I don't see that. I don't see much. It seems a statement that deliberately says as little as possible, which probably means that they can't - or don't want to - talk about it.
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Old 01-09-2020, 06:23 AM   #25
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As well as the Wayback Machine, it may well be accessible through TROVE, the Australian National Library digital collection, which has for some time been collecting copies of Australian websites. The two I run are accessible through Trove, and since I am closing one down, I know that it will continue there.
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Old 01-09-2020, 06:33 AM   #26
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Would there be any legalities in someone making an archive of the Adelaide Ebook Library available?
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Old 01-09-2020, 05:22 PM   #28
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It would be the same situation as https://www.fadedpage.com/index.php

Unfortunately the USA Corporations want to keep extending copyright and making it retrospective. The US Government then makes it a condition of trade treaties. It's immoral and corporate greed. Generally the estates of the creator do not benefit.
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It would be the same situation as https://www.fadedpage.com/index.php

Unfortunately the USA Corporations want to keep extending copyright and making it retrospective. The US Government then makes it a condition of trade treaties. It's immoral and corporate greed. Generally the estates of the creator do not benefit.
Sure they do. The Margaret Mitchell estate, just as one example, still makes money in the US from the copyright of Gone with the Wind.

Retrospective does not mean what you think it means.
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Sometimes, I did write "Generally". Mostly it's to benefit the corporations.
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