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Old 11-13-2018, 10:18 AM   #8116
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Have you read it, would you recommend the Hollows series? Is it compatible with Dresden, e.g. is a cross even possible?

ETA: Most importantly: Is the Hollows series finished?
IDK if it's finished (of course, Dresden isn't...), but I suppose they could do some type of cross-over. They're alternate realities that have different backstories, but...it could be made to work.

I don't know the status of the Hollows series. I started reading it when the first book came out; initially really liked it, then at some point, book 5 or whatever, started feeling like Harrison was being hit over the head with the LKHamilton stick, and decided, BTDT on a supernatural-mystery series that decides that fauxrotica is more profitable. I don't have any issue with sex scenes, etc., but when they start to take over from actual plotting, meh. That's why I gave up on LKH, years ago now, (an originally great supernatural murder mystery series that degenerated into the originally-bad-ass female protagonist being the supernatural-blow-up-sex-doll for the supe community) and I decided that I didn't want to enrich another publisher that ruined another series (that I'd originally really liked).

FWIW. But, sure, they could crossover with a bit of creative rewriting, or Harry getting sent into some alternate timeline, whatev.

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Old 11-13-2018, 01:46 PM   #8117
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ETA: Most importantly: Is the Hollows series finished?
I've read the first six books (I think) and really enjoyed them. I had planned to reread and finish the series this year, but work and school got in the way.

The series is complete, but there are quite a few bonus stories that take place before, during, and after the last series novel.

I do hope to read them all at some point.
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Old 11-13-2018, 05:03 PM   #8118
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I've read the first six books (I think) and really enjoyed them. I had planned to reread and finish the series this year, but work and school got in the way.

The series is complete, but there are quite a few bonus stories that take place before, during, and after the last series novel.

I do hope to read them all at some point.
Thank you. A bonus the series is complete. Earlier this year I started Colin McCool thinking it was complete, only to find out it wasn't at the end. Was going to recommend it here, but not when it is unknown how it ends or if it ends. Nothing worse than a never ending series that the author doesn't know how to kill off at the right time and end it. Series are nice, but having too many I am waiting on to be continued is horrible. Many got picked to gap the time until a new Dresden book comes out ...
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IDK if it's finished (of course, Dresden isn't...), but I suppose they could do some type of cross-over. They're alternate realities that have different backstories, but...it could be made to work.

I don't know the status of the Hollows series. I started reading it when the first book came out; initially really liked it, then at some point, book 5 or whatever, started feeling like Harrison was being hit over the head with the LKHamilton stick, and decided, BTDT on a supernatural-mystery series that decides that fauxrotica is more profitable. I don't have any issue with sex scenes, etc., but when they start to take over from actual plotting, meh.
I will pass then, same reason I am not starting Anita Blake. Just like you, I don't mind the scenes, but not at the cost of changing the genre of the series. And only reading until it goes downhill? Meh. I would always wonder if I missed out on something.


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That's why I gave up on LKH, years ago now, (an originally great supernatural murder mystery series that degenerated into the originally-bad-ass female protagonist being the supernatural-blow-up-sex-doll for the supe community) and I decided that I didn't want to enrich another publisher that ruined another series (that I'd originally really liked).
So you are saying usually the pressure comes from the publisher? Either you go add more romance, or you won't get any more books published.
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FWIW. But, sure, they could crossover with a bit of creative rewriting, or Harry getting sent into some alternate timeline, whatev.

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At least it would be theoretically possible.
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Old 11-13-2018, 05:20 PM   #8119
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Is it compatible with Dresden,
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e.g. is a cross even possible?
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ETA: Most importantly: Is the Hollows series finished?
Yes, 13 novels and a prequel.


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Old 11-13-2018, 06:01 PM   #8120
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Thank you. A bonus the series is complete. Earlier this year I started Colin McCool thinking it was complete, only to find out it wasn't at the end. Was going to recommend it here, but not when it is unknown how it ends or if it ends. Nothing worse than a never ending series that the author doesn't know how to kill off at the right time and end it. Series are nice, but having too many I am waiting on to be continued is horrible. Many got picked to gap the time until a new Dresden book comes out ...
THAT is hilarious. You know what series I'm annoyed about? Not only isn't finished, but has started that cliffhanger crap? Colin McCool. The Junkyard Druid thing, right? Yes, it's NA (new Adult) or whatever, but I'd heard good things, and started reading it. I just read the newest one, and it TOO, like the last one, ends on a d*mn cliffhanger! That's almost always a KOD (Kiss of Death) from me. I don't like being played for a sucker.

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I will pass then, same reason I am not starting Anita Blake. Just like you, I don't mind the scenes, but not at the cost of changing the genre of the series. And only reading until it goes downhill? Meh. I would always wonder if I missed out on something.
It's kind of a shame. I really LOVED that series, through...Bloody Bones. Those 5 were terrific. In Killing Dance, if memory serves, that's when LKH (got divorced and) started writing a crapload of sex scenes, all explained away by the "munin" (spirit of a dead woman) was "riding" the heroine, making her previously celibate self into a whole new person. I hung on, mind you (at one point foolishly thinking that the Merry Gentry series would let LKH blow it out of her system), through...Narcissus in Chains or the following one, and I finally just gave up. I don't care how "super" you are, having sex with more people than you can count on the digits of your hands is just not attractive to me, and the plots COMPLETELY vanished. I mean, it started out with her being "The Vampire Executioner," the sourge of evildoers everywhere, and by the time the 10th book came around, she was the sofa of evildoers everywhere. (I referred to her as a blow-up doll for Supernatural Frat Boy parties). Yeah, no. The mystery portion completely disappeared, the cops disappeared, yadda. Half the damn dialogue was "do me do me do me," (watered down for the family-friendly MR atmosphere). Sorry, but I have other brain cells that need feeding.

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So you are saying usually the pressure comes from the publisher? Either you go add more romance, or you won't get any more books published.
Not in the case of Hamilton, for certain. She got into a fight with her publishers around book 6, on this very topic (according to her own comments), b/c the publishers asked her to cut out all the sex, or the 'extra' sex, or whatever. She said that she fought back because she thought that they were being sexist; I remember commenting on her then-forum that I thought maybe they just wanted better writing than what was being served. (Given the absolute demise of decent plotting since her first divorce, I've always, always wondered--who was it that was actually plotting out the mysteries in that series? Those plotlines all seemed to completely poof, when she got divorced.) I seem to recall being thrown off her board at that point, or something along those lines. Forum? Honestly, I can't remember, it was a while back. It took me a while to get over wishing she'd go BACK to the original storylines.


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You'd have to reconcile a BUNCH of stuff. In Harrison, everybody has these recessive Supe genes, or something, show up due to some disease in...tomatoes, I think it was, whereas with Harry, all the supe stuff is supposed to have always existed. If memory serves, they'd also have to reconcile the Fae and their roles, too, but other than that, yeah, they could PROBABLY do a crossover. (Hope it wouldn't affect the Dresdens, though.)

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Old 11-13-2018, 06:30 PM   #8121
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THAT is hilarious. You know what series I'm annoyed about? Not only isn't finished, but has started that cliffhanger crap? Colin McCool. The Junkyard Druid thing, right? Yes, it's NA (new Adult) or whatever, but I'd heard good things, and started reading it. I just read the newest one, and it TOO, like the last one, ends on a d*mn cliffhanger! That's almost always a KOD (Kiss of Death) from me. I don't like being played for a sucker.
Yes, that Colin McCool. Cliffhangers are no problem when you don't have to wait. The only inconvenience I had was to switch from one book to the next. The 7th book came out earlier this month (have not read yet), but still appears not to be the last either.
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