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Old 11-29-2017, 01:15 AM   #76
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:21 AM   #77
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:01 AM   #78
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:11 AM   #79
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I hated "2001: A Space Odyssey" (or, as I called it, "A Space Idiocy".)
My heart breaks for you, my friend.

Have you tried reading the book? Or did that not help?
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:31 AM   #80
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My heart breaks for you, my friend.

Have you tried reading the book? Or did that not help?
I haven't read the book. If it's anything like the movie this is not a high priority for me. Maybe I'll (at least) look into it.
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:43 AM   #81
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I thought the book was OK (when I read it decades ago). All but a big chunk of the end, of course. The way-too-long and pointless stream of consciousness nonsense was as annoying as the movie's half-hour long hallucinogenic, first-person-shooter roller-coaster ride that correlated with it.
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Old 11-29-2017, 11:27 AM   #82
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The way-too-long and pointless stream of consciousness nonsense was as annoying as the movie's half-hour long hallucinogenic, first-person-shooter roller-coaster ride that correlated with it.
I don't remember that? The "first-person-shooter roller-coaster ride" matches the Through the Star Gate section of the book, which, like the rest of the novel is told in third person narration.

If anything, fans of the movie have criticized the book for being too direct and explanatory, deflating the mystery of Kubrick's movie.
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Old 11-29-2017, 12:09 PM   #83
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I don't remember that? The "first-person-shooter roller-coaster ride" matches the Through the Star Gate section of the book, which, like the rest of the novel is told in third person narration.
Yes. The first-person-shooter was referring to the movie not the book. And it does match the "Star Gate" section of the book. Regardless of the book's POV, both mediums' treatment of that event were overly long and monotonous.

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Yes. The first-person-shooter was referring to the movie not the book. And it does match the "Star Gate" section of the book. Regardless of the book's POV, both mediums' treatment of that event were overly long and monotonous.
Well, one man's trash, as the saying goes...
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It doesn't demonstrate that science fiction promotes poorer reading, it just demonstrates that some people's prejudices against science fiction lead them to poorer reading. If you're reading sloppily because of you're prejudices, that's on you, not on the material.
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It doesn't demonstrate that science fiction promotes poorer reading, it just demonstrates that some people's prejudices against science fiction lead them to poorer reading. If you're reading sloppily because of you're prejudices, that's on you, not on the material.
Did you look at the example they used?
Same story just changed key words.
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Did you look at the example they used?
Same story just changed key words.
Yes, I read it. Since the text is the same, it illustrates that it is their prejudices that trigger their poorer reading, not the material itself.
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Yes, I read it. Since the text is the same, it illustrates that it is their prejudices that trigger their poorer reading, not the material itself.
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